Magnetic field of straight wire, charges travels at relativistic speed

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of the magnetic field produced by a straight wire carrying charges, particularly focusing on the differences (or lack thereof) when the charges are moving at low speeds compared to relativistic speeds. Participants explore the implications of special relativity on the magnetic field and the invariance of Maxwell's equations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the magnetic field remains the same for charges moving at low speeds versus relativistic speeds, suggesting that the relativistic factor cancels out upon integration.
  • Another participant argues that a higher speed results in a higher current density, which would lead to a stronger magnetic field.
  • A participant acknowledges that while the formula for the magnetic field remains unchanged, the current produced by slowly moving particles is lower than that produced by fast particles, implying a different magnetic field value.
  • It is noted that Maxwell's equations are invariant under Lorentz transformations, which is a significant point in the discussion.
  • A reference is made to the derivation of Maxwell's equations from Coulomb's Law and special relativity, indicating a historical connection between these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the magnetic field's value changes with the speed of charges, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of relativistic effects on the magnetic field, and there are assumptions about the definitions of current density and the conditions under which the magnetic field is evaluated.

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Hi there,

Is it true that the magnetic field of a straight wire is the same when the charges are moving at low speeds (v <<c) as when they are moving at relativistic speeds (v~c). The extra relativistic factor the magnetic field gets from the moving charges cancels upon integrating. According to my calculation, magnetic field has the same value, relativity or not.

I could provide you with my calculation if needed ;)

I presumably expected a different value.

Thanks, nos
 
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If they're moving faster then the current density is higher so the magnetic field will be stronger.
 
Ah I see now. Of course, the formula for B-field stays the same, but the current for slowly particles is lower than current produced by fast particles, thus a different value for B-field.

Actually my question should have been: Is it true that the formula stays the same taking relativity into account.

Thank you.
 
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Yes.

The general form of your question is: "are Maxwell's equations invariant under a Lorentz transform?", to which the answer is yes. This fact is very interesting, as well as very historically relevant as Maxwell's equations predate Einstin's formulation of special relativity; they were a major factor in the formulation of special relativity in the first place.
 

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