Magnetic field uniformity problem

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The discussion centers on the creation of a uniform magnetic field using two large coils with N turns and radius R, separated by a distance R. Participants debate whether the magnetic field is uniform along the x-axis or specifically at the centers of the coils. It is suggested that the field decreases with distance, leading to the conclusion that uniformity may only occur at certain points, particularly at R/2. Numerical methods to analyze the field's behavior and identify uniform regions are also mentioned. The conversation highlights the complexity of determining uniform magnetic field locations in relation to coil positioning.
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While at an engineering internship, you reminisce about the similarities between gravitational fields, electric fields, and magnetic fields. You know that two infinite sheets of opposite charge can be used to create a uniform electric field (for points between the two sheets) and you know that two infinite arrays of opposite current carrying wires can produce a uniform magnetic field (for points between the two arrays), but the direction of your internship reminds you that there is another possibility. You recall that two large coils with N tight turns of radius R can yield a uniform magnetic field. If the two coils are separated by a distance R, where along the x-axis is the magnetic field uniform, and what additional calculations might you need in order to convince your director that the field is indeed uniform?

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I found an image that depicts how I was visualizing this scenario
Helmholtz_coil_config.jpg

Wouldn't the field simply be uniform along the x-axis? Or would it be specifically at the center of each ring/coil. I guess since the field decreases with increasing distance, then it would seem logical that the field is uniform at the centers.

Numerically, couldn't we obtain values of the field as a function of position, plot them, and determine where the derivatives are 0? Implying that the field is unchanging and thus uniform?
 
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Check out eqn (8) here . Separation R gives the most uniform behavior at the center.
 
Callix said:
Wouldn't the field simply be uniform along the x-axis?
Certainly not everywhere. 100 km away the field will be weaker than close to the coils.
Callix said:
Or would it be specifically at the center of each ring/coil.
Why do you expect a uniform field there? Is there some other special point where the field might be uniform?
Callix said:
Numerically, couldn't we obtain values of the field as a function of position, plot them, and determine where the derivatives are 0? Implying that the field is unchanging and thus uniform?
Sure.
 
Yeah, I was just kind of rambling through my thought process without going back to remove it.. XD

At the time I observed each ring and thought it would be uniform at the center of each ring, but then after I realized that the other ring will have an affect as well.
 
mfb said:
Is there some other special point where the field might be uniform?

So I imagine the the only uniform point would be in the center of the circular cross-section at a distance R/2.
 
Callix said:
So I imagine the the only uniform point would be in the center of the circular cross-section at a distance R/2
Link in post #2 shows very good uniformity from -R/3 to + R/3 (their R = 0.2 m)

Not clear to me where "the center of the circular cross-section at a distance R/2" is located...
 
BvU said:
Link in post #2 shows very good uniformity from -R/3 to + R/3 (their R = 0.2 m)

Not clear to me where "the center of the circular cross-section at a distance R/2" is located...

Snapshot.jpg
 
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