Magnetic field's effect on a charged particle's motion

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The discussion focuses on understanding the Lorentz force law and the application of the right hand rule to determine the direction of the magnetic force on a charged particle. Participants clarify that the "power" referred to is actually the electric current, which is represented by the moving charge in this context. The right hand rule is explained, emphasizing that the thumb should point in the direction of the charge's velocity, the index finger in the direction of the magnetic field, and the middle finger will indicate the magnetic force's direction. Confusion arises regarding the correct application of the rule, but it is confirmed that various versions of the right hand rule yield the same results when used correctly. Proper understanding of the charge's motion and magnetic field direction is essential for accurate application of the rule.
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Homework Statement
A positive charged particle moves in a homogeneous field with speed in direction north. Find the direction of the magnetic force on the particle when the magnetic field has direction to west.
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I don't think there are any relevant equations
I actually have no idea how to begin. Thanks for help 😊
 
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Look up the Lorentz force law.
 
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Doc Al said:
Look up the Lorentz force law.
Hi, I looked it up, and I tried to use the right hand rule, but I don´t understand how to do it when I don´t know the direction of the power. I tried with the power having the direction "into the paper", and used the right hand rule, and then it worked, but I don´t know why. Can you please explain?
 
agnwib said:
but I don´t understand how to do it when I don´t know the direction of the power.
What do you mean by "power"? You are given the directions of the charge's velocity and the magnetic field. That should be all you need to find the direction of the magnetic force on the charge.

Describe how you are using the right hand rule.
 
Doc Al said:
What do you mean by "power"? You are given the directions of the charge's velocity and the magnetic field. That should be all you need to find the direction of the magnetic force on the charge.

Describe how you are using the right hand rule.
By "power" I meant the electric current. Normally, when I use the right hand rule I keep my thumb and index finger still, and bend the other fingers (middle finger, ring finger and pinky). Then I place the index finger in the direction of the electric current, the three bend fingers in the direction of the magnetic field and my thumb shows the direction of the magnetic force. I don´t know how to use this rule at this task because I don´t know the direction of the electrical current
 
agnwib said:
I don´t know how to use this rule at this task because I don´t know the direction of the electrical current
In this problem there is only a single charge moving. That moving charge is the current.
 
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Doc Al said:
In this problem there is only a single charge moving. That moving charge is the current.
Okey, I understand. Does that mean that that when I use the right hand rule, the index finger should point to north (because the positive charged particle has valocity to that direction)? Because when I do this, I still get wrong answer.
 
agnwib said:
Does that mean that that when I use the right hand rule, the index finger should point to north (because the positive charged particle has valocity to that direction)?
Yes, using your version of the right hand rule (which is OK).
agnwib said:
Because when I do this, I still get wrong answer.
So, you have your index finger pointing north and your other fingers pointing west?
 
The right hand rule states that: to determine the direction of the magnetic force on a positive moving charge, point your right thumb in the direction of the velocity , your index finger in the direction of the magnetic field (B), and your middle finger will point in the direction of the the resulting magnetic force
 
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salmanshu322 said:
The right hand rule states that: to determine the direction of the magnetic force on a positive moving charge, point your right thumb in the direction of the velocity , your index finger in the direction of the magnetic field (B), and your middle finger will point in the direction of the the resulting magnetic force
There are many versions of the right hand rule. The one used by the OP is fine. (As is yours.)

Used properly, they all give the same answer.
 
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