Magnetic Force of a copper wire

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The discussion focuses on calculating the required current flow in a suspended copper wire influenced by the magnetic forces from two parallel wires carrying 95 A each. The force between the wires is determined using the formula F2 = u0I1I2l2/(2*pi*d). To find the necessary current in the suspended wire, the weight per unit length of the wire must be calculated, incorporating the density of copper and gravitational force. The upward magnetic force is resolved into components, considering the angle formed by the configuration of the wires. Ultimately, the relationship between the magnetic forces and the weight of the suspended wire is established to solve for the current needed.
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Homework Statement



The top wire is 1.00 mm diameter copper wire and is suspended in air due to the two magnetic forces from the bottom two wires. The current flow through the two bottom wires is 95 A in each. Calculate the required current flow in the suspended wire.

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Homework Equations


Force between two parallel wires is
F2= u0I1I2l2/(2*pi*d)

The Attempt at a Solution


Fm = Fnp
Fm = u0*95 A * 95 A * l2/(2*pi* .038 m)

But they do give me length...
 
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Kandycat said:

Homework Statement



The top wire is 1.00 mm diameter copper wire and is suspended in air due to the two magnetic forces from the bottom two wires. The current flow through the two bottom wires is 95 A in each. Calculate the required current flow in the suspended wire.

2u3v8sm.jpg


Homework Equations


Force between two parallel wires is
F2= u0I1I2l2/(2*pi*d)

The Attempt at a Solution


Fm = Fnp
Fm = u0*95 A * 95 A * l2/(2*pi* .038 m)

But they do give me length...

They do or do not give you length? (You don't need it.)

But you do need to develop the weight per unit length of the top wire from the volume of the copper and its density. m*g = ρ*v*g per unit length.

The force of the B field however is a vector that you need to resolve into the distances and angles from the 2 wires below that are supporting it.

Figure the angle to the vertical is 30° for an equilateral triangle in this configuration, so vertically you will have 2*F*cos30° as your upward force from the magnetic field where F is determined by the Force relationship for 2 || wires.
 
So are you saying that 2*F*cos30 = ρ*v*g?
 
Kandycat said:
So are you saying that 2*F*cos30 = ρ*v*g?

After a fashion I suppose, taking care to get the unit length accounted for.

You should draw out the vectors and satisfy yourself that the components add in this way.
 
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