Can Light Be Absorbed Like a Magnet?

In summary: I will not even go there.In summary, the conversation discusses the idea of creating a perfect "black body" or a perfect mirror to make a room completely dark. However, it is pointed out that both options have limitations and may not achieve the desired result. The only way to make a room completely dark is to prevent any light from entering, such as by closing windows or using a synthetic light source. Other suggestions, such as accelerating the light source or closing one's eyes, are deemed impractical.
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Hi. When we turn on a lamp in the room at night, the room gets bright. Now, is there such a thing that does the same thing but other way around? When, it's not night, i.e day, we turn the lamp on and it absorbs all the light in the room and make the room dark?

I guess such a lamp would be similar to black hole, but it'd absorb, suck only lights. I hope I was not being ambigious this time.
 
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What you are asking about would be best described as a perfect "black body", an object that absorbs all electromagnetic radiation that falls on it. There are no perfect black bodies in real life, but all objects absorb some EM radiation, even the walls of the room you're in right now. If perfect black bodies did exist then you could line the room with the material and turn the light on and all you would be able to see is the light bulb.
 
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Black body doesn't suck though. And no there isn't (@OP). Sucking entails force and the only force that could work in this case is gravity, which would affect everything else too...besides gravity can't exactly be switched off.
E: Is your avatar Bizzaro?
 
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Drakkith said:
What you are asking about would be best described as a perfect "black body", an object that absorbs all electromagnetic radiation that falls on it. There are no perfect black bodies in real life, but all objects absorb some EM radiation, even the walls of the room you're in right now. If perfect black bodies did exist then you could line the room with the material and turn the light on and all you would be able to see is the light bulb.

Hi, Drakkith. Thanks for the reply. How about making something like perfect mirror? I know there's no such thing as perfect mirror either, but dielectric mirrors can reflect up to 99.999% of the light. So let's imagine a lightbulb whose inner 'surface' is made up of such mirrors and outer 'surface' is made up of black body.

All lights coming go through the lightbulb's outer surface and gets reflected by the mirrors that are inside the lightbulb, then as the lights go back, the black body in the lightbulb gets 'opened' by the switch so all lights are trapped inside it. Oh, I guess I'm being way too naive and feel very lost! @Enigman,

So it appears like the only way to make the room dark is by preventing sun lights going through windows? :frown:

Edit: Well, wish I knew, I even tried googling but I have yet to find his name. I found it in the "Pre-defined Standard Avatars".
 
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A blackbody also emits radiation, with the radiation curve dependant upon its temperature, so that isn't the answer either.
 
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256bits said:
A blackbody also emits radiation, with the radiation curve dependant upon its temperature, so that isn't the answer either.

Hi, 256bits. Could you please elaborate? I don't get how it's not the answer. Are those emitted radiations harmful to us?
 
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Sun's a blackbody (approx.).

As for temperature dependence of BBR:
600px-Black_body.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation
 
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Nugso said:
So let's imagine a lightbulb whose inner 'surface' is made up of such mirrors and outer 'surface' is made up of black body.

All lights coming go through the lightbulb's outer surface and gets reflected by the mirrors that are inside the lightbulb, then as the lights go back, the black body in the lightbulb gets 'opened' by the switch so all lights are trapped inside it. Oh, I guess I'm being way too naive and feel very lost!
The problem here is that you've got a room that is lit from some constantly shining source. Whatever you put in there - a perfect blackbody(it will shine in infrared! all blackbodies reradiate the incident energy) or a black hole - it'll only "suck in" those photons that are incident on its suface(or even horizon if it's a BH).
As long as you're only concerned with visible light, a blackbody should do.

So, if you're in a lit room, you'll always see the light coming at you from all directions, reflected by the walls and all the objects in the room. The only direction that would be completely lightless would be the surface of the black body. So, if it were a sphere, you'd see a perfectly black circle(barring some light scattered by the air and dust suspended in it) where the body is.
But whatever provides lighting for the room, would still happily bounce its photons off the walls and into your eyes.

The best you could do, is to line all the walls with a perfect blackbody. Then, the only thing you'd see would be the source of light for the room. A glowing tungsten wire in perfect darkness(if it's a lightbulb).
 
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Enigman said:
Sun's a blackbody (approx.).

As for temperature dependence of BBR:
600px-Black_body.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation

I was going to say "Then we need to create a synthetic sun if possible" until I read Bandersnatch's reply. Now it looks like I'm flogging a dead horse.


@Bandersnatch

Now that I read your post and re-read mine, I see why my idea is hogwash. I completely ignored the light source.
 
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Nugso said:
@Enigman,

So it appears like the only way to make the room dark is by preventing sun lights going through windows? :frown:

Edit: Well, wish I knew, I even tried googling but I have yet to find his name. I found it in the "Pre-defined Standard Avatars".

mmm...Bizzaro or a really angry Superman.
OT Or you could accelerate the light source so that the waves get out of the visible region due to doppler effect.
Or close your eyes.
:tongue:
 
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Enigman said:
mmm...Bizzaro or a really angry Superman.
OT Or you could accelerate the light source so that the waves get out of the visible region due to doppler effect.
Or close your eyes.
:tongue:

Accelerating the Sun? No, thanks!
 

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