Making an Electromagnet to carry 1kg

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The discussion revolves around creating an electromagnet capable of lifting 1 kg, with considerations for safety and the use of a car battery. Participants explore the relationship between the electromagnet's strength, the number of wire turns, and the current supplied.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for constructing the electromagnet, including using a galvanized steel nail and experimenting with battery configurations. Questions arise regarding the necessary calculations for force and magnetic field strength, as well as the impact of wire resistance and battery output on performance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of preliminary calculations and theoretical design before practical experimentation. There is acknowledgment of the need for better core materials and the effects of surface contact on magnetic effectiveness. Multiple interpretations of the best approach are being explored without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints such as the type of materials available (e.g., straight rod vs. U-shaped core) and the variability in battery performance based on freshness and brand. The discussion also touches on the need to consider both resistance and reactance in the circuit.

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Homework Statement



To create an electromagnet capable of carrying 1kg without it being too dangerous i.e utilizing a car battery.

Homework Equations


Strength of electromagnet is dependent on number of turns and current.
V=IR
I=V/R

The Attempt at a Solution


Used hot galvanized (I assume steel) nail and spike, wrapped with enamel coated copper connected to 3 battery packs (each with 4 D batteries in series). Experimented wiring the batter packs in series and parallel. These attempts were not that great and resulted in only a few paperclips being picked up.

Second take on the project I took was taking apart a power adapter to take out the transformer and re-arranging the "E" pieces of metal to all face one way and hooking that up to a battery though I failed and severed the copper wires when removing the plates.

Basically, would the transformer approach be the best way given that it must carry 1 kg. And if so, I'm still a bit confused as to where to connect the current to it.

Thanks for reading
 
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You should do some calculations before you start tinkering with the equipment. How much force do you need to pickup 1 kg? How big a magnetic field do you need? How much current can your batteries produce? What kinds and shapes of cores are available? These are only a few questions that you should answer first. Once you know the answers you can come up with a design that meets the requirements, at least theoretically. Then, and only then, should you start tinkering. There is no point wasting time cobbling something together if, even if it worked perfectly, it would not meet the specs.
 
That's actually a good idea, I don't know why I didn't think about doing equations first...

To lift 1 kg, is about 10 N of force.

Currently only have a straight rod of Hot galvanized steel, which isn't ideal but has to work. I'm trying to find a U-shaped piece as that should help.

From what I gather you can gather 1 amp out of a D battery. Though apparently this changes depending on freshness and etc. Though I'm also not too sure on how the resistance of the wire will affect this also.
 
I think you do a lot better if the end of the magnet and the object to be lifted both have large highly polished surfaces that meet perfectly (making atom-to-atom contact throughout). The more your setup departs from the ideal, the less effective the magnet will be.
 
darkshado said:
From what I gather you can gather 1 amp out of a D battery.
Batteries are rated in amp-hours. D batteries have about 2 amp-hours, more or less. It varies not only by freshness, but also by brand and presumably cost.

Though I'm also not too sure on how the resistance of the wire will affect this also.
Ohm's law, but consider reactance, not just resistance. And be careful of short circuits.
 

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