Making bacteria express green fluorescent protein - could it decrease fitness?

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The discussion centers on the potential fitness costs associated with bacteria expressing green fluorescent protein (GFP). It is suggested that the energy and amino acids required for GFP expression could lead to slightly lower fitness in these bacteria compared to non-expressing counterparts. While the effect is believed to be negligible in most cases, there is curiosity about existing research that might highlight situations where the impact is more significant. Concerns are raised about the visibility of fluorescent bacteria, which could make them more susceptible to predation, further complicating their survival in natural environments. The conversation also touches on the performance of genetically modified organisms, such as GloFish, and how the level of protein expression can influence growth rates, with extreme cases potentially halting growth altogether. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the complexity of fitness implications for organisms expressing GFP in both laboratory and wild settings.
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Since it obviously takes energy and extra amino acids to express the green fluorescent protein, so it's possible that bacteria expressing GFP might have slightly lower fitness (on average) than bacteria that aren't expressing GFP.

I'm sure the effect is negligible in most cases. But maybe these is some research that shows this? And are there borderline cases where this effect might not be negligible?
 
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Simfish said:
Since it obviously takes energy and extra amino acids to express the green fluorescent protein, so it's possible that bacteria expressing GFP might have slightly lower fitness (on average) than bacteria that aren't expressing GFP.

I'm sure the effect is negligible in most cases. But maybe these is some research that shows this? And are there borderline cases where this effect might not be negligible?

I think that being fluorescent might be more of a drawback than just taking more energy. Being highly visible even to primitive eyespots can't be a good thing if you're a bacterial colony. I don't believe that you'd notice a trend that you could be sure was due to metabolic stress, and not some other factor. I can't find studies for viability of GFP in engineered organisms, but that just says nobody bothered to check.

In the lab, they live, but I think it's safe to say that in the wild it's too complex to know how that would work. Maybe that gene confers some protection we don't know about?
 
Simfish said:
Since it obviously takes energy and extra amino acids to express the green fluorescent protein, so it's possible that bacteria expressing GFP might have slightly lower fitness (on average) than bacteria that aren't expressing GFP.

I'm sure the effect is negligible in most cases. But maybe these is some research that shows this? And are there borderline cases where this effect might not be negligible?

I'm sure the transformed bacteria would be outcompeted by wildtypes; I have to keep my transformed epithelial cells separated from my 'wildtypes' as well. But that's not really the point- GFP (or GFP fusion proteins) are used to study protein dynamics.

I wonder how the GloFish do- the ones that can be bought as pets?
 
It depends on how strongly the protein is expressed. It can reduce the growth rate to zero in extreme cases. If one strain outgrows another by 1%, the first population will be about 2.7X the second in 100 generations (assuming none die).
 
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