Material A & B Stress: What's the Difference?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the differences in stress and strain experienced by two materials, A and B, when subjected to identical loads in a press. Participants explore the implications of stress-strain relationships and how these affect the materials' behavior under uniform force.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if the specimens are the same size and subjected to the same force, they would experience the same stress.
  • Others argue that the arrangement of the specimens (next to each other) affects the stress experienced by each material.
  • A participant explains that stress is defined as internal force per unit area and strain as the deformation relative to original length, suggesting that material A may experience less stress due to greater deformation.
  • Another participant asserts that since both materials experience the same strain due to the press's movement, the stress in material A will be greater based on its stress-strain graph.
  • There are repeated requests for clarification on which material will deflect the most under identical loads, indicating confusion about the relationship between stress, strain, and deflection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how stress and strain relate to the materials' arrangement and properties. There is no consensus on which material will deflect the most or experience greater stress under the given conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference stress-strain graphs and definitions but do not provide specific values or detailed diagrams, which may limit the clarity of their arguments.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying material mechanics, particularly those interested in understanding the concepts of stress and strain in practical applications.

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Homework Statement


Two identical sized specimens of materials A and B are made from materials which produce stress v strain graphs as shown below.

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The specimens are arranged in a press, the press moves uniformly, which of the specimens would be under the greatest stress?

Homework Equations


stress = force / area

The Attempt at a Solution


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Would they both be under the same stress, they are the same size (area) and both subject to the same force?
 
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What are the definitions of "stress" and of "strain?"
 
Your answer is correct of the specimens are placed on top of one another. But what if they are placed next to one another.

Chet
 
There is a small diagram which I omitted. It shows that the two samples are placed next to each other in the press.

Stress is a measure of the internal force an object is experiencing per unit cross sectional area. Stress = force / areaStrain is a measure of how much an object is being stretched . Strain, ε = Δl / l0
So I guess as the press is putting force onto the samples, sample A will be under less stress because it will deform more than sample B? Meaning sample A will then have a larger area so the amount of stress will be less?
 
The strains in the two materials will be exactly the same because this is determined by how much the press moves down. The areas will be the same also. What does that tell you about the stresses?

Chet
 
Ok so if the 2 materials are under the same amount of strain I guess the stress will be greater in material A, because as we see from the graph, for any value of strain, the stress in material A is always greater.

Am I correct?
 
Exactly.
 
Give the answer anyone please.

(b) Under identical loads, which material will deflect the most?

(c) The specimens are arranged in a press as shown below, the press moves uniformly, which of the specimens would be under the greatest stress?
 
Faisal Nazir said:
Give the answer anyone please.

(b) Under identical loads, which material will deflect the most?

(c) The specimens are arranged in a press as shown below, the press moves uniformly, which of the specimens would be under the greatest stress?
See response #6.
 
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this might be silly but I am still confused about Q.b under identical loads, which material will deflect the most then?? please someone let me know ASAP
 
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darin khan said:
this might be silly but I am still confused about Q.b under identical loads, which material will deflect the most then?? please someone let me know ASAP
Please tell us your thoughts on this.
 

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