[Materials studio]geometry optimization

In summary, the software has taken about 30 hours to do the geometry optimization of a compound's structure, but it has not finished yet. There is a chart called "Dmol3 optimization convergence" while processing the optimization calculation. The software should converge nicely and smoothly, but if it doesn't, there may be indications that the thing isn't converging.
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Dear friends:
anyone who used the materials studio software before?
these days, i used the software to do the geometry optimization of a compound's structure.
it has already taken about 30hours to do the optimization job till now and it has not finished yet. i am really anxious and don't know when it will finish the job.
there is a chart called "Dmol3 optimization convergence" while processing the optimization calculation. In the convergence chart, there are 3 lines, energy change, max force, and max displacement. do you know how to read the chart? and does it yield the information when the calculation will be finished?
thanks a lot! and hope you can solve the problem for me!
 
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I've never used Materials Studio. Haven't even heard of it before, I think.
Looking at their web page, "Dmol3" (which I'm unsure whether I've heard of either, despite being in the quantum-chemical field) is allegedly a DFT method. I'll wager a guess that it's B3LYP* or a variant of it.

You've left out some very critical information here: What's the size of your system and what kind of machine are you running on? Regardless, 30 hours is not a long amount of time. A system of a few hundred atoms could easily take weeks on a supercomputing cluster.

Geometry optimization is a simple thing. You calculate the energy, then you calculate the gradient w.r.t. nuclear coordinates (i.e. the forces on the atoms)**, then you use that to try to minimize the energy w.r.t. the nuclear coordinates, using a gradient descent method or similar. What you're seeing plotted is the total energy, the average forces, and the average displacement (i.e. how much it's moved the atoms).

Ideally, this should all converge nicely and smoothly. The energy should get lower (in general) and the forces and displacement get smaller. The optimization is done whenever the changes get below certain convergence limits which you can also set. Typically around 1E-5 Hartrees. What you want to look out for is indications that the thing isn't converging. That would appear as large spikes in the energy/force, or periodic behaviour (i.e. converges to a point, then returns to another point and converges to the same point again).

* Becke's exchange functional hybridised in three parameters with Hartree-Fock exchange and the Lee-Yang-Parr correlation functional
** The Hellman-Feynman theorem at work.
 
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thank you very much, alxm. Your reply has made me more clear.
 

What is Materials Studio geometry optimization?

Materials Studio geometry optimization is a computational technique used to find the most stable atomic arrangement of a molecule or material. It involves minimizing the total energy of the system by adjusting the positions of the atoms.

What types of systems can be studied with Materials Studio geometry optimization?

Materials Studio geometry optimization can be used to study various types of systems including molecules, crystals, and surfaces. It is commonly used in materials science and chemistry research.

What is the workflow of a Materials Studio geometry optimization?

The workflow of a Materials Studio geometry optimization typically involves setting up the initial atomic coordinates, selecting a force field or potential energy function, and running the optimization algorithm. The resulting optimized geometry can then be analyzed and compared to experimental data.

What are the advantages of using Materials Studio geometry optimization?

Materials Studio geometry optimization allows for efficient and accurate determination of the most stable atomic arrangement of a system. It can also provide valuable insights into the structural properties and behavior of materials, which can aid in the design and development of new materials.

What are some common challenges in Materials Studio geometry optimization?

One common challenge in Materials Studio geometry optimization is selecting the appropriate force field or potential energy function for the system being studied. This can greatly affect the accuracy of the results. Another challenge is dealing with large and complex systems, which may require significant computational resources and time to optimize.

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