Matrix relation of sets. symmetric, antisymmetric,reflexive,transitive

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The matrix representing relation A = {a,b,c} is analyzed for properties of reflexivity, transitivity, symmetry, and antisymmetry. It is confirmed to be reflexive since it includes all pairs (a,a), (b,b), and (c,c). The relation is deemed antisymmetric because there are no pairs that contradict this property. However, it is not symmetric as it contains (b,a) without (a,b), and it is also not transitive since (c,b) and (b,a) do not lead to (c,a). Overall, the relation is reflexive and antisymmetric but neither symmetric nor transitive.
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Homework Statement



relation A = {a,b,c} for the following matrix [1,0,0;1,1,0;0,1,1]

is it reflexive, transitive, symmetric, antisymmetric


Homework Equations



ordered pairs.

The Attempt at a Solution



i wrote the ordered pairs as (a,a),(b,a),(b,b),(c,b),(c,c)

I only that it is reflexive for a,a b,b and c,c
also it is antisymmetric because there are no edges in opposite directions between distinct verticies.

am I missing anything. thanks!
 
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sapiental said:

Homework Statement



relation A = {a,b,c} for the following matrix [1,0,0;1,1,0;0,1,1]

is it reflexive, transitive, symmetric, antisymmetric


Homework Equations



ordered pairs.

The Attempt at a Solution



i wrote the ordered pairs as (a,a),(b,a),(b,b),(c,b),(c,c)

I only that it is reflexive for a,a b,b and c,c
also it is antisymmetric because there are no edges in opposite directions between distinct verticies.

am I missing anything. thanks!
I don't know what you mean by "reflexive for a,a b,b and c,c. A relation is reflexive if and only if it contains (x,x) for all x in the base set. Since only a, b, and c are in the base set, and the relation contains (a,a), (b,b), and (c,c), yes, it is reflexive.

To be symmetric, since it contains (b,a) it would have to contain (a,b) and it doesn't: not symmetric. Since it does NOT contain (a,b) or (b,c), yes, it is anti-symmetric.

What about transitive? A relation is transitive if and only if, whenever (x,y) and (y,z) are in the relation, so is (x,z). Can you find pairs so that is NOT true?
 
Hey, thanks for the reply!

I didn't put parenthesis around the ordered pairs (a,a),(b,b),(c,c) for the first problem, sorry.

I don't think it's transitive since we have (c,b) and (b,a), and it doesn't contain (c,a). How does that sound? Thanks
 
Yes, that completes it.
 
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