Max Compression of Frictionless Blocks & Spring

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A block with mass m_1 slides at 10 m/s towards a block m_2 moving at 3 m/s, with a spring attached to m_2. The maximum compression of the spring occurs when both blocks move together after a completely inelastic collision. Calculations show that the kinetic energy before the collision is 122.5 J, while the combined kinetic energy after the collision is 43 J, leading to a potential energy stored in the spring of 79.5 J. The correct maximum compression of the spring is calculated to be 0.37 m, but a mistake in calculating the final velocity led to confusion about the answer. The discussion highlights the common issue of minor calculation errors in physics problems and seeks advice on avoiding such mistakes.
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Homework Statement


A block with mass m_1 = 2 \textrm{kg} slides along a frictionless table with a speed of 10 m/s. Directly in front of it and moving in the same direction is a block of mass m_2 = 5 \textrm{kg} moving at 3 m/s. A massless spring with spring constant k = 1120 N/m is attached to the near side of m_2. When the blocks collide, what is the maximum compression of the spring? (Hint: At the moment of maximum compression of the spring, the two blocks move as one. Find the velocity by noting that the collision is completely inelastic to this point).

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I tried doing this problem 2 ways, my way and then utilizing the hint (i got the same answer)

When they collide, block 1 will do work on block 2 until their kinetic energies are equal, and at this point the spring will be at it's maximum compression. So:

W = -\Delta U = \int^{x_f}_{x_0} \mathbf{F} \cdot dx = 1/2kx^2

KE_1 = (.5)(2)(10^2) = 100 \textrm{J}
KE_2 = (.5)(5)(3^2) = 22.5 \textrm{J}

Energy available for block 1 to do work on the spring:
KE_1 - KE_2 = \Delta U = 100 - 22.5 = 77.5 \textrm{J} = 1/2kx^2
x= \sqrt{\frac{2U}{k}} = \sqrt{\frac{(2)(77.5)}{1120}} = .37\textrm{m}

The book said the answer was .25m

So I went on to do it the second way, suggested by the hint:

m_1v_1 + m_2v_2 = (m_1 + m_2)v_3
v_3 = \frac{m_1v_1 + m_2v_2}{m_1 + m_2} = \frac{(2)(10) + (5)(3)}{2 + 5} = 3.5 \textrm{m/s}

Now find the kinetic energy when at the instant when both blocks are moving as a unit:

KE= 1/2mv^2 = (.5)(2+5)(3.5^2) = 43 \textrm{J}

Now energy is conserved both before and after the collision so:

E_f = KE_{\textrm{2 block system}} + U_{\textrm{spring}}
E_i = KE_1 + KE_2
\Delta E = 0 = E_f - E_i
E_f = E_i
43 + U = 100 + 22.5
U = 79.5 \textrm{J} =1/2kx^2
x = \sqrt{\frac{2U}{k}} = \sqrt{\frac{(2)(79.5)}{1120}} = .37 \textrm{m}

I've gone over both ways and the math and physics looks pretty solid. Does anyone see an error in my physics / math?
 
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When you solved for v3, you divided by 10 instead of 7.
 
alphysicist said:
When you solved for v3, you divided by 10 instead of 7.

Thanks that was it. This brings up a good point, which I've been doing a lot lately. I do all of the major mathematics correctly, but I always make some stupid mistake and get the answer incorrect. How do everyone else deal with making those preventable errors?
 
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