Max Energy Stored in Magnetic Field from Elastic Collision of Carts"

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum energy stored in the magnetic field during an elastic collision between two carts. A 1.0 kg cart moving at 4.0 m/s collides with a 3.0 kg cart moving at 2.0 m/s, resulting in a total initial kinetic energy of 14 J. Participants emphasize the need to determine the common velocity of the carts post-collision using conservation of momentum. The correct approach involves using the equation m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2)v to find this velocity. The challenge lies in calculating the energy distribution between kinetic energy and the energy stored in the magnetic field at the moment of collision.
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Homework Statement



A 1.0 Kg cart moving at 4.0 m/s overtakes and collides with a 3.0 kg cart moving in the same direction at 2.0 m/s on the same track. Given that these carts collide elastically due to repelling magnets, determine the maximum energy stored in the magnetic field.



Homework Equations


Ke = 1/2mv^2
Ktotal = Ke + Ke


The Attempt at a Solution


Hey guys, I have an exam tomorrow and can't seem to figure this out. I found the total kinetic energy in the system, to be at 14 J. However, I do not know what to do from here on.
 
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Hi hybridized! Welcome to PF :smile:

At the time when the carts collide, their velocities will be same. Do you see why this is true? :wink:
 
So if their velocities are the same, I found the Kinetic energy before cart 1 collides, and after cart 2 gets hit. So in that middle is where the energy is stored or at its max? So how would I go on about to calculate the total energy. Exam in 30 mins!
 
hybridized said:
So in that middle is where the energy is stored or at its max? So how would I go on about to calculate the total energy. Exam in 30 mins!

Yes. Find the kinetic energy at the instant when both are moving with the same velocity. And you already know the initial kinetic energy(before collision). So now, this initial energy is distributed as the kinetic energy when velocities are equal and the energy stored in the magnetic field.
 
Infinitum said:
Yes. Find the kinetic energy at the instant when both are moving with the same velocity. And you already know the initial kinetic energy(before collision). So now, this initial energy is distributed as the kinetic energy when velocities are equal and the energy stored in the magnetic field.

K so bro, which velocity would I use? Or do I find delta v? to find the kinetic energy when they have the same velocity.
 
Would you be kind enough to write down the equations i must use to find the total kinetic energy stored? Cause I found the total energy for the two carts, but I'm stuck from there... Which velocity do I use when they are moving at the same speed.
 
hybridized said:
K so bro, which velocity would I use? Or do I find delta v? to find the kinetic energy when they have the same velocity.

You cannot use a velocity because you need to find the velocity!

But, you sure can use the conservation of linear momentum :wink:
 
O so, m1+v1 + m2v2 = mtvt

v1 and v1 cancel as they are the same, solve for vt and then plug into 1/2mv^2 and then add to the Ke i found in the beginning ?
 
hybridized said:
O so, m1+v1 + m2v2 = mtvt

v1 and v1 cancel as they are the same, solve for vt and then plug into 1/2mv^2 and then add to the Ke i found in the beginning ?

Noo...

By conservation of momentum you should have...

m_1v_1 + m_2v_2 = (m_1+m_2)v

and not m1+v1..
 
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