Maximum and Minimum Values Inside Triangle

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The problem involves finding the absolute maximum and minimum values of the function f(x,y) = y^2 + x^2 - 4x + 11 within a closed triangular region defined by the vertices (8,0), (0,4), and (0,-4).

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the critical point found at (2,0) and the expressions for the boundary lines of the triangle. There are attempts to express the function in terms of one variable along these lines, with specific questions about how to fill in the expressions for f along each line.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify how to express the function along the boundaries of the triangle. Some participants provide guidance on plugging in formulas for the lines, while others express uncertainty about the specific values to use in the function expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to express the function in one variable along the boundaries, indicating a focus on understanding the relationship between x and y in the context of the triangular region.

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Homework Statement


Find the absolute maximum and minimum values of f(x,y) = y^2+x^2 -4x + 11 on the set D where D is the closed triangular region with vertices (8,0),(0,4) , and (0,-4) .

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


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fx = 2x - 4
fy = 2y

Critical point = (2,0)

The boundary of the triangle can be expressed in 3 lines, L1,L2, and L3. Find expressions for these lines.

L1 : x=0 y[-4,4]
L2 : y=-1/2x + 4 x[0,8]
L3 : y=1/2x - 4 x[0,8]

I checked the above, it is ALL correct.

Along L1, f can be expressed by the one variable function:
f = f(_,y) = ______
Along L2, f can be expressed by the one variable function:
f = f(x,_) = ______
Along L3, f can be expressed by the one variable function:
f = f(x,_) = ______

I don't know what to put in the blanks above
 
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Chas3down said:

Homework Statement


Find the absolute maximum and minimum values of f(x,y) = y^2+x^2 -4x + 11 on the set D where D is the closed triangular region with vertices (8,0),(0,4) , and (0,-4) .

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
fx = 2x - 4
fy = 2y

Critical point = (2,0)

The boundary of the triangle can be expressed in 3 lines, L1,L2, and L3. Find expressions for these lines.

L1 : x=0 y[-4,4]
L2 : y=-1/2x + 4 x[0,8]
L3 : y=1/2x - 4 x[0,8]

I checked the above, it is ALL correct.

Along L1, f can be expressed by the one variable function:
f = f(_,y) = ______
What's the x value along this vertical line?
Chas3down said:
Along L2, f can be expressed by the one variable function:
f = f(x,_) = ______
Given an x-value, how do you find the y value? You have the formula above.
Chas3down said:
Along L3, f can be expressed by the one variable function:
f = f(x,_) = ______
Given an x-value, how do you find the y value? You have the formula above
Chas3down said:
I don't know what to put in the blanks above
 
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Just plug in the formulas for x you have for the individual lines.
 
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Thanks, solved!
 

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