Maxwell Boltzmann distribution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Maxwell-Boltzmann (M.B) distribution, particularly in the context of comparing it with the Fermi-Dirac (F.D) distribution. Participants explore the implications of the distribution curves, specifically addressing the meaning of certain parameters and the relationship between temperature, velocity, and probability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the interpretation of the M.B curve at x=0, seeking clarity on the probability of zero energy for particles.
  • Another participant points out that Figure 2.1 plots velocity against kinetic energy, noting that the energy distribution does not peak at zero, and explains the distinction between velocity and speed distributions.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the implications of the graph in Figure 2.1, particularly regarding the relationship between temperature, the variable x, and the probability of lower velocities.
  • One participant critiques Figure 2.1 as misleading, arguing that it compares different variables and asserts that increasing temperature broadens the distribution while decreasing the probability at low velocities.
  • A later reply mentions the presence of a v^2 factor in the M.B distribution and provides the formula for the most probable speed, indicating a specific relationship between temperature and speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of Figure 2.1 and the implications of the M.B distribution. There is no consensus on the clarity or accuracy of the graph, and the relationship between temperature and velocity probabilities remains a point of contention.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential confusion arising from comparing different variables in the graph, and there are unresolved questions regarding the exact implications of temperature changes on the distribution.

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Difference between Maxwell Boltzmann and fermi dirac distribution
In the Aschcroft & Mermin solid state book there is a curve to compare F.D and M.B distribution. I can't understand the concept of M.B curve; what does mean exactlly when x =0? It means the probability of zero energy for particles is most or ...?

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Figure 2.1 seems odd; it appears to be plotting the distribution of velocity (note, velocity, not speed) versus kinetic energy. The energy distribution does not have a maximum at zero. Look up the MB distribution; observe its forms for the distribution of velocity, speed and energy.

Equation 2.1 is the distribution of vectorial velocity, i.e. with a particular direction as well as magnitude (or alternatively, a particular set of components {vx, vy, vz}). It has a maximum at zero velocity. The distribution of the speed is found by summing Eq. 2.1 over all directions (or all sets of {vx, vy, vz} that give the same magnitude v), and is given by
f(v) = 4πv2f(v)
This has a value of zero at v=0, and a maximum at a finite v. The energy distribution goes as E1/2e-E/kT
 
Thanks so much for your simple description.
Now I can understand the difference between graph for speed, energy and velocity.

But I can't understand "what fig2.1 try to say", it shows if x decreases then the probability increases. The plot is Ae^(-x). The meaning of x=0 is have zero velocity.
Does it mean if T increases then x decreases and the probability for have less velocity increases?
 
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Figure 2.1 is a very bad graph. It is plotting the probability of one variable (velocity) against a different variable (energy/kT). All it really shows, qualitatively, is that MB and FD are very different.
If T increases, the distribution broadens, and the probability at low velocities decreases. The x-axis in Fig 2.1 is E/kT, and the distribution of (E/kT) is independent of temperature.
 
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Thanks. I thought so but I wasn't sure. You really help me to understand this. Thanks so much.
 
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Usually there is a ## v^2 ## factor on the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, and the peak speed (## v_{mp}=##most probable speed) occurs at ## v_{mp}=(2kT/m)^{1/2} ##.
 
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