Maxwell equations in higher dimensions

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The discussion centers on the generalization of Maxwell's equations to higher dimensions, exploring whether such generalizations have an accepted form and their implications in physics. Participants examine theoretical frameworks, mathematical formulations, and potential applications, while expressing varying levels of understanding and acceptance of these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if Maxwell's equations have been generally accepted in higher dimensions or if they remain under investigation, expressing concerns about the aesthetic symmetry of classical equations being lost in proposed generalizations.
  • Another participant mentions the use of Clifford algebras for generalizing cross products in higher dimensions, particularly in applications like computer graphics, but expresses uncertainty about the physical applications of generalized Maxwell equations.
  • A different viewpoint argues that physics should not solely focus on applications, suggesting that if string theories and M-theory are valid, then a multi-dimensional form of Maxwell's equations is necessary.
  • One participant asserts that the extension discussed in the first referenced paper is standard, while the second paper is speculative, emphasizing the need for a relativistically covariant form of Maxwell's equations when extending to extra dimensions.
  • This participant elaborates on the implications of parity transformations on vectors and pseudovectors, arguing that the electric field behaves as a vector while the magnetic field acts as a pseudovector, which leads to the necessity of generalizing the equations to maintain consistency under parity in higher dimensions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the acceptance and utility of generalizing Maxwell's equations to higher dimensions. There is no consensus on the validity or applicability of the proposed generalizations, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding advanced mathematical concepts and the speculative nature of some claims regarding the relationship between relativity and high-energy physics.

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My main question is if the Maxwell equations have been generalized
to include extra dimensions in an generally accepted form,
or is it still under investigation?

I've already read
http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0609260v4
but I didn't quite like the add-hoc assertion
We assert that in all the traditional (3 + 1) D curl operations and cross products in
physics [...] one of the vectors involved is actually an antisymmetric second rank tensor.


Moreover, even we accept the above assertion, the resulting equations loose the aesthetic symmetry of classical Maxwell equations, a fact that in physics is always a warning message of something wrong.

Furthermore the following article
http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0106235v2
makes things even more confusing as it states that Feynman derived the first set of Maxwell (relativistic) equations starting from the non relativistic Newton's second law!

Since I am a Physician only by hobby (my real occupation is Electrical Engineer) I can not totally follow the advanced mathematical/physics concepts in the relative articles I am asking your help for clarifying these things.
 
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There are some useful generalizations of cross products using clifford algebras (those can be applied in 5D conformal modelling of 3D space in computer graphics), but I can't imagine what these maxwell equation generalizations would be used for.

If such generalizations were to have an accepted form, I would have to think there would need to be a physical application. Are there applications for such generalizations in physics?
 
Peeter said:
If such generalizations were to have an accepted form, I would have to think there would need to be a physical application. Are there applications for such generalizations in physics?

Physics is not a matter of applications, this is an Engineering subject.
Moreover, If the string theories and the M-theory are correct then the Maxwell equations ought to have a multi-dimensional form.
 
The extension used in the first paper is standard, while the second paper you quote is doing something speculative by assuming that relativity might break down at high energy.

As long as you want relativity to hold and extend naturally to extra dimensions, you need to use the formalism discussed in the first paper, where the Maxwell equations are expressed in a relativistically covariant form.

While it's true that the relativistic form of the Maxwell equations seems to break a symmetry between E and B, it's not terribly hard to show that this analogy is pretty strained to begin with. All we need to do to see this is to consider parity. If we invert parity (that is, if we reverse the direction of our coordinate axes), the physical direction of any vector should be unchanged. But, since our axes are now reversed, the vector, by remaining unchanged, is now pointing in the opposed direction with respect to each axis. (If it starts out pointing in the positive x-direction, reversing the axis means that it's now in the negative x-direction, and so on.) This means that under a parity reversal, any vector should pick up a minus sign.

Now, consider any relation involving a cross-product between two vectors. If, under the parity switch, each vector picks up a minus sign, these cancel, and the resulting "vector" is unchanged under parity. Physically, this means that the resulting vector will flip along with the parity. This, then, can't be a true vector. Instead, it must be a "axial vector" or "pseudovector." In fact, any cross-product relation must involve an odd number of pseudovectors in order to be consistent under parity.

Now, consider the Maxwell equations. It is not too hard to show that the gradient operator is a vector under parity. Then, by considering the total parity transformation of each of the four equations, we can see that the electric field must act as a vector, while the magnetic field acts as a pseudovector. In three dimensions, a pseudovector is equivalent to an antisymmetric second rank tensor. So, this is the form that must be generalized to higher dimensions, leading to the standard relativistic form.
 

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