Maxwellian velocity distribution

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The discussion revolves around the Maxwellian velocity distribution of particles in an ideal gas, particularly focusing on the behavior of this distribution as the absolute temperature approaches 0 K. Participants explore the implications of this limit and the transition to quantum statistical mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the Maxwellian distribution will tend towards a delta function as temperature approaches 0 K and seeks an explanation of the physical significance of this result.
  • Another participant suggests that the Maxwellian distribution becomes ineffective at low temperatures and recommends using quantum statistics, specifically Fermi-Dirac or Bose-Einstein distributions.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the quantum statistical distributions mentioned.
  • There is a question about the reasons for the breakdown of the Maxwellian distribution at low temperatures.
  • Another participant explains that at ultra-low temperatures, the quantum nature of particles becomes significant, making the classical Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution inapplicable.
  • One participant notes that the gas will condense and will no longer behave as a gas, implying that the Maxwellian distribution should not apply in this state.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the Maxwellian distribution at low temperatures, with some advocating for the transition to quantum statistics while others seek clarification on these concepts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the transition and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the limitations of the Maxwellian distribution without fully resolving the assumptions or conditions under which it breaks down at low temperatures. There is also a lack of clarity on the transition to quantum statistical mechanics.

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hey, I've just begun on elementary concepts in heat and thermodynamics. nd i was wondering...for the probabilistic maxwellian distribution of velocities in an ideal gas, as absolute temperature of the gas system tends to 0 K, the distribution plot will tend to the delta function, wnt it? can anyone please explain if this is what will happen, and if yes, what's the actual physical significance of this result? [please assume i dnt kno anything, and explain everything :) ]
 
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samreen said:
hey, I've just begun on elementary concepts in heat and thermodynamics. nd i was wondering...for the probabilistic maxwellian distribution of velocities in an ideal gas, as absolute temperature of the gas system tends to 0 K, the distribution plot will tend to the delta function, wnt it? can anyone please explain if this is what will happen, and if yes, what's the actual physical significance of this result? [please assume i dnt kno anything, and explain everything :) ]

As the temp approaches 0K,maxwellian distribution is no longer effective
You should use quantum statistics like Fermi-Dirac distribution or Bose-Einstein distribution at ultra-low temp
 
thanx...im cluless bt the other 2 tho
 
why does maxwells breakdown or whatever, for low T?
 
samreen said:
why does maxwells breakdown or whatever, for low T?

As temp goes ultra-low,the quantum nature of the particles (atoms,molecules.ions,etc) becomes more significant,so the classical Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution,which neglects all quantum effects, no longer applies.
 
the gas will condense, itl no longer be a gas. so maxwells distribution ought not to apply. I've got it partly.
 

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