Maxwell’s equations for oscillating electric dipole

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on demonstrating that the E- and B-fields for an oscillating electric dipole do not satisfy Maxwell's equations. While the divergence of B and Faraday's law are satisfied, there is uncertainty regarding Gauss's law and the curl of B, particularly due to charge density considerations. The fields presented are approximations valid only at large distances and do not account for the correct 1/r² and 1/r³ terms inherent in a true electric dipole. The divergence of the electric field should ideally evaluate to zero, indicating that the source is a current rather than a charge, except at the origin. Overall, the analysis reveals that the fields derived do not fully comply with Maxwell's equations under the conditions specified.
humo90
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
How do I show that our equations for the E- and B-fields for the oscillating electric dipole do NOT satisfy Maxwell’s equations?

After approximations in retarded potentials, we have our E- and B-field as following:

E = -ω2μ_{0}p_{0}(4∏r)-1sin(θ)cos[ω(t-\frac{r}{c})]\hat{θ} (Griffiths 11.18)

and

B = -ω2μ_{0}p_{0}(4∏cr)-1sin(θ)cos[ω(t-\frac{r}{c})]\hat{\phi} (Griffiths 11.19)

Where ω is angular frequency for the oscillating charge moving back and forth, c is the speed of light, r is the distance where E and B are to be calculated, θ is the angle between dipole axis and the distance r, p_{0} is the maximum value of dipole moment, μ_{0} is permeability of free space, t is time, \hat{\phi} is direction in azimuthal angle, and \hat{θ} is direction in polar angle.

I got divergence of B is satisfied (2nd eq. of Maxwell's), also, I got faradays law satisfied (3rd eq. with curl of E).

I am stuck in the other two equations:

For Gauss's law (1st eq.) I got div. of E does not equal zero, but maybe that because of the charge density. So, I am not sure whether this equation is satisfied or not, and I do not know how to show that.

Also, the same argument For Curl of B. I got the same result for time derivative of E in addition to an extra component in \hat{r} direction which may be the volume current density term in 4th Maxwell's equation (Ampere's and Maxwell's law).
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hey, one reason these don't satisfy Maxwell's Equations is because they are not the correct fields. They are only approximations, valid at large distances. The field of an electric dipole, oscillating or not, contains 1/r2 and 1/r3 terms.
 
Bill_K said:
Hey, one reason these don't satisfy Maxwell's Equations is because they are not the correct fields. They are only approximations, valid at large distances. The field of an electric dipole, oscillating or not, contains 1/r2 and 1/r3 terms.

So, does Maxwell's 1st and 4th equations reduces to \nabla.E = 0 and \nabla×B = ε_{0}μ_{0}\frac{\partial}{\partial t}E in this case?
 
Bill_K said:
The field of an electric dipole, oscillating or not, contains 1/r2 and 1/r3 terms.
I wouldn't say so. If it contains such terms, it is not a pure dipole. Think of a sphere whose surface charge varies like cos theta.
However, even the field of a point dipole contains an additional delta function contribution at r=0, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole
 
DrDu said:
I wouldn't say so. If it contains such terms, it is not a pure dipole. Think of a sphere whose surface charge varies like cos theta.
However, even the field of a point dipole contains an additional delta function contribution at r=0, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole

If you calculate the fields for a point-source electric dipole you do get 1/r, 1/r^2 and 1/r^3 terms. Specifically, the fields in cylindrical coordinates for a VED become,

E_\rho = \cos \theta \sin \theta \left( \frac{3}{r^2} - \frac{i3k}{r} - k^2 \right) \frac{e^{ikr}}{r}
E_z= \left[ k^2\sin^2\theta - \frac{1}{r^2} + \frac{ik}{r} + \cos^2\theta \left( \frac{3}{r^2} - \frac{i3k}{r} \right) \right] \frac{e^{ikr}}{r}

So the \theta component in spherical coordinates becomes

E_\theta = \cos\theta E_\rho - \sin \theta E_z = \sin \theta \left( -k^2 - \frac{ik}{r} + \frac{1}{r^2} \right) \frac{e^{ikr}}{r}

where k is the wavenumber and we assume an e^{-i\omega t} time dependence. These are derived via Maxwell's Equations. So the first-order term of the E_\theta component still lines up with what the OP was given by Griffiths. The k^2 coefficient gives us the \omega^2 and taking the real part would give use the cosine component.

But in terms of the OP's question, the divergence of the electric field should evaluate to zero. Technically, there are sources at the origin, but since this is an oscillating dipole then the source is not a charge (hence why the divergence of the electric field is zero) but a current. So, everywhere but the origin you should find:

\nabla\cdot \mathbf{E} = 0
\nabla \times \mathbf{B} = \mu_0\epsilon_0 \frac{\partial \mathbf{E} }{\partial t}
 
Last edited:
You are obviously right. I only wanted to say that the field of a non oscillating dipole does not contain a 1/r2 term.
 
I was using the Smith chart to determine the input impedance of a transmission line that has a reflection from the load. One can do this if one knows the characteristic impedance Zo, the degree of mismatch of the load ZL and the length of the transmission line in wavelengths. However, my question is: Consider the input impedance of a wave which appears back at the source after reflection from the load and has traveled for some fraction of a wavelength. The impedance of this wave as it...
Back
Top