Measuring voltage across piezo speaker, getting resonating noise.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around measuring the output duration of a piezo speaker in a freezer control unit using an oscilloscope. Participants explore the issues encountered when connecting the oscilloscope, particularly the resonating noise produced during measurement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the resonating noise occurs only when the oscilloscope is connected and suggests that grounding issues may be involved, proposing the use of battery power or a 2-prong adapter as a workaround.
  • Another participant recommends using a microphone with an amplifier placed in front of the piezo speaker to observe the output on the oscilloscope, indicating that direct connection may not be necessary.
  • A clarification is provided regarding the terminology, with a participant explaining that "CRO" refers to a Cathode Ray Oscilloscope, and noting that liquid crystal types are also acceptable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing approaches to measuring the output from the piezo speaker, with no consensus on the best method. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the cause of the resonating noise and the optimal measurement technique.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the grounding of the oscilloscope and its impact on the measurement, as well as the implications of using different types of oscilloscopes.

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Hi. I'm trying to measure the milliseconds of duration of output from a little piezo speaker that is on a circuit (a freezer control unit). I tried connecting an oscilloscope across its leads, but when I apply power, I hear this resonating noise which does not sound healthy. This is only when the device is powered.

Any suggestions on why this might be? This noise ONLY occurs when I have the oscilloscope connected. What else might I try to measure this (other than a microphone)?
 
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KingNothing said:
Hi. I'm trying to measure the milliseconds of duration of output from a little piezo speaker that is on a circuit (a freezer control unit). I tried connecting an oscilloscope across its leads, but when I apply power, I hear this resonating noise which does not sound healthy. This is only when the device is powered.

Any suggestions on why this might be? This noise ONLY occurs when I have the oscilloscope connected. What else might I try to measure this (other than a microphone)?

Your oscilloscope is grounded, if you are plugging into the wall outlet for power. Can it run on battery power instead? If not, you could temporarily "cheat" the power cord, by using an adapter to go from the 'scope's 3-pron power cord to a 2-prong plug (you get these adapters in the electrical department of the hardware store). You don't want to cheat a 3-prong cord in general, because it bypasses an important ground fault protection of the 3-prong cord/instrument.
 
Connect a microphone with an amplifier to the CRO.

Place the microphone in front of the piezo speaker.

Observe the output on the CRO.

No need to connect anything.
 
vk6kro said:
Observe the output on the CRO.

Quick translation of Aussie to here: CRO = oscilloscope :smile:
 
:)

Yes CRO is Cathode Ray Oscilloscope. A liquid crystal type would be OK too.
Most oscilloscopes are still the Cathode Ray type, I think.
 

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