Mechanics - particle in a potential

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The discussion focuses on finding the equation of motion for a particle in the potential U(x) = Vtan^2(ax). The initial attempt used the Lagrangian to derive a differential equation, resulting in a complex expression that was deemed unsolvable. An alternative approach involved expressing the Lagrangian in terms of energy, leading to a contradiction where the position x appeared constant rather than a function of time. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing that the force is conservative and energy is conserved, suggesting that the velocity can be expressed as a function of position to solve the motion equation. The analysis emphasizes the need for a correct interpretation of the Lagrangian to derive meaningful results.
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Homework Statement



Find the equation of motion for a particle moving in a potential U(x)=Vtan^2(ax) with V>0. The motion occurs in one dimension.

Homework Equations



\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}=\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{x}} (*)

The Attempt at a Solution



L=\frac{1}{2} m\dot{x}^2-Vtan^2(ax)

By taking derivatives of this and applying (*), it is easy to arrive at the differential equation:

\ddot{x}=-\frac{2Va}{m} \frac{sin(ax)}{cos^3(ax)}

but this isn't much use because there's no way I can solve that.

So another approach I tried is this:

L=E_k-U(x)=(E-U(x))-U(x)=E-2U(x)

Where E is constant.

Now apparently \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{x}}=0 because \dot{x} doesn't appear in L. So,

0=\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}=-\frac{2Va}{m} \frac{sin(ax)}{cos^3(ax)}

But this can't be right, because it implies that x=n/aPi where n is an integer. Clearly, x should be a function of time, x_0 and v_0 and not a constant. However, I can't identify what is wrong with the analysis I did.

Thank you.
 
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There is potential, so the force is conservative. The energy is conserved, T+V = E. You can get the velocity, v= dx/dt in terms of x: dx/dt = f(x). You can solve this differential equation in principle, to get the equation of motion in terms of the time.

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