Mechanics - Velocity over Time

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The discussion centers on deriving the velocity of a particle moving through a medium with quadratic friction, described by the equation f = bv^2. The initial attempt involved using Newton's second law, leading to a differential equation that included mass as a variable. Participants clarified that the mass does not need to be eliminated from the equation, and the correct solution involves an exponential decay model, v(t) = v0 exp(-γ t), where γ = b/m. A mistake was acknowledged regarding the type of friction initially used, with the final correct expression for velocity being v = m v0 / (b v0 t + m). The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately representing friction in the equations of motion.
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Homework Statement


A particle is moving, through a medium in which the friction is: f = bv^2 (v is the velocity).
In t=0 the velocity is v{0}. There is no gravity.
Write the velocity of the particle over time.

Homework Equations


I used: F = ma.


The Attempt at a Solution


-f=-m*a
Solving the differential equation - v(t)=m/(b*t-m/v0)
The thing is, the mass is not known in the question.
Is there a different way of solving this?
 
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Just keep m as parameter, similar to b. There is no way to get rid of it.
 
Thanks!
 
Indeed, you don't have to get rid of the mass. But the solution is not correct; it should be:

m\dot{v} = - b v \Rightarrow v(t) = v0 exp(-γ t )

where γ = b/m
 
cosmic dust said:
Indeed, you don't have to get rid of the mass. But the solution is not correct; it should be:

m\dot{v} = - b v \Rightarrow v(t) = v0 exp(-γ t )

where γ = b/m
Don't forget the square in the force.
 
Ooops... I used linear friction! Sorry, the velocity will be:

v = m v0 / (b v0 t + m)
 
cosmic dust said:
Ooops... I used linear friction! Sorry, the velocity will be:

v = m v0 / (b v0 t + m)

Which is what I wrote :)
 
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