Medical Meditation Techniques for Achieving Spiritual Bliss - Robert

[DJmaux]

I experience the same paranoia. What I find completely gets rid of it as long as you don't smoke to much is the correct dose of alcohol. Drink at least 8 units of alcohol and it takes the edge right off. But a little advice make sure you drink the alcohol slowly at the start especialy stronger forms of alcohol as if you drink to fast in the first 15 minuites the alcohol become less relaxing and to intense. Just drink real slow for 15 minuites (2 units or so at most) then speed up so you drink say 6 units in 5-10 minuites then smoke your weed. It works wonders for me! Best to always leave at least 2 days before drinking again for health reasons and for the fact that alcohol doesn't have the same effect if you drink it the following day.

 

[DJmaux]

That post was meant for the guy who smokes weed and gets paranoid BTW !

 

[Les Sleeth]

Les, I don't want them to understand me,

You don't see a problem with that? Why even attempt any sort of communication if you don't want understanding?

I want them to understand the truth if I want them to do anything at all.

But then you say that. You are supposedly representing the "truth," so if they don't understand you, how are they going to understand the truth?

If they find the truth it will open them to the words of others but only because they found it in themselves.

What is the truth? Do you think it is ideas and words? I can say the exact same words as you do. Would you like me to start a thread imitating your style? I bet could do it better than you. But why should anyone just buy into someone acting profound without any meat in the explanations? Only mindless sheep would go for that, and you aren't going to find many of those here at PF.

My explanations are useless I found that out many years ago when the experiences first came upon me. Each person is a lock and every lock is a little different, you must look them over speak to them understand them and then and only then if it is ment to be will they understand.

I don't suppose you can see you are claiming something without justifying it, and how at a philosophy forum that isn't proper. Say someone starts a thread asking what love is. One person reasons step by step so that others understand his explanation. Then you come along and say something like "I am realized, I know the truth, so accept what I say." Well, if you were at the meeting hall with a cult following listening, then you wouldn't have to justify your views. But here at a philosophy forum, you can't assume the position of knowing the truth without making your case. Just saying you know doesn't mean anybody is going to buy it, especially when you seem incapable of making sense.

One can't save the whole world because much of the world is not starving, but you can feed the hungry when you have food to give and your paths cross.

You know, I've read your stuff for quite awhile without saying much. But when you start talking about meditation clearly talking out of the posterior section of your body . . . then you cross the line. I'd suggest sticking to utterances on things nobody knows or cares anything about if you don't want to be confronted.

 

[graffix]

For me I don't consider it to be a mediation but I suppose it is, it is a single mindedness upon a subject. In the past it was, god, gravity, matter, original sin, where did matter come from or the energy that moves it, is this all there is, what is my mind, and a host of others. You address these questions like an animal circling it's prey, you attack it like water and must be relentless for if you do not answer them you must walk in the fog and not know your direction. What stands in front behind or underneath for you know nothing. A fate worse than death. If you attack in this way if you stand and let nothing stand in your way you may find truth. For you must fight the worst enemy you will ever find in all of your existence. This is the most evil cunning, distracting, deluding, individual you will ever come in contact with. That will be ... yourself. Are you really ready for such a battle? Do you think it is your choice or is it?

It sounds nice to contemplate these things, but this is not meditation. There are certain physcial conditions (breathing speed, heartrate, brain waves) that a body goes through while in meditation that has evidence of having many health benefits. I would be wary to accept that your act of contemplation would have any. I too, used to not think so highly of meditation, and looking back, can say that back then, I just didn't 'get it.' There's nothing that can make you 'get it.' My only hint that I can provide is that as much as you think your contemplation seems to take you somewhere higher, the whole idea of even acquiring this knowledge is still an attachment to your ego (your self) since you are still considering these questions and the answers you acquire as your own. Giving into everything (Zen) and the universal one-ness and giving in completely is what meditation is IMHO.

 

[TENYEARS]

Lol...

If a person is thirsty for truth they will find it. Every morsel will be a prize of gold. They will know it when they see it and their instincts will take them there. You assume much because I do not post piles of writing. I am not here for the writing of a thesis.

 

[Les Sleeth]

Lol...

If a person is thirsty for truth they will find it. Every morsel will be a prize of gold. They will know it when they see it and their instincts will take them there. You assume much because I do not post piles of writing. I am not here for the writing of a thesis.

. . . or making sense.

 

[Fliption]

. . . or making sense.

Lol

 

[stallion]

I have been practicing mediation for about 5 years now. I find that it relaxes my mind and helps me think better but I am interested in transcendental meditation. I find it impossible to clear my mind of all thought and I have yet to attain the blissful, spiritual feeling that is said to come with a quieted mind.

I have read a book on meditation but have never been instructed on how to do it by an individual. How can I achieve the "no thought" experience of bliss which I have heard so much about? I know meditation is a purely subjective experience but is there some books I can read or some video or audio tapes? I do not have the time or resources to hang out with monks in the himalayas.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Robert

The practice you seek is called shikantaza. It is a zen buddhist word meaning
to just sit. It is not meditation for one does not think, or concentrate on a
sound or any visual images. One just sits...

Remember what the old buddha said...practice every day no vacation...

 

[Chronologic]

. . . or making sense.

do you have any links, references or resources that will teach me how to to samadhi meditation or union meditation?

 

[Royce]

Try: http://www.fhu.com/ - Roy Masters, The Foundation of Human Understanding.
Click on "Click here to Begin"
Next page click on "Begin Download"
Toward the bottom of the next page Select "Exercise"

Its an audio file that you can save and/or burn to a CD and play on any MP3 player. It may help you to get strated. It did me and I later used the breathing method of breathing in through my nose and out my mouth using my diaphram or belly breathing while noticing the air coming in and down and then out. As my mind would drift off I just brought it back to the moment and to noticing my breating.

 

[sd01g]

I recommend active, thought-focused meditation. The goal is to

optimise brain activity with increased glucose level, increased

pulse and breathing rate. Start by eating something like honey

or something containing sugar or dextrose. Then start jumping on

a small trampoline-type jumper placed in the middle of a surround

sound audio system. Listen to any kind of music you enjoy at a

level that is loud enough to stimulate. Then, while jumping, focus on a philosophical question such as 'what is the difference

between empty space and nothing.' Soon you should not hear the

music and and you will be unaware of time. With your focused and

energized brain optimised, you with be amazed at what you will

find. If nothing else, it is less expensive than most drugs and

at the least, you will get a little exercise.