Meter Bridge Experiment: Limitations for Measuring Small Resistance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the limitations of the meter bridge experiment for measuring small resistances, particularly in the context of introductory laboratory setups. Participants explore the definitions and terminology surrounding meter bridges and Wheatstone bridges, as well as the practical challenges associated with measuring low resistance values.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the terminology used, suggesting that "meter bridge" may refer to different types of bridges in various regions, such as the Wheatstone bridge.
  • There is uncertainty regarding what constitutes "small resistance" and how it affects the utility of the meter bridge experiment.
  • One participant mentions that using a very small resistance could lead to significant power dissipation, potentially damaging the resistor.
  • Another participant points out that high reference resistor values could complicate the measurement due to small voltage ratios, making accurate readings difficult.
  • Some participants discuss alternative methods for measuring low resistances, such as the Kelvin Bridge and using AC measurements with transformers to mitigate issues related to contact resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of the meter bridge for small resistances, with no consensus reached on whether it is a suitable method. Multiple competing perspectives on terminology and measurement techniques are present.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of small resistance, the potential for contact resistance to affect measurements, and unresolved questions about the specific configurations and setups used in experiments.

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why the meter bridge experiment not useful for the measurement of small resistance?
 
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Hardik Batra said:
why the meter bridge experiment

I assume you mean what people (in the US at least) usually call a "Wheatstone bridge", rather than the kind of meter bridge that is used in an audio recording studio:

http://www.sweetwater.com/c434--Mixer_Meter_Bridges

Before reading your post, I had never seen a Wheatstone bridge referred to as a "meter bridge", but a Google search revealed that in some places it does indeed have that name. I've learned something new today! :biggrin:

not useful for the measurement of small resistance?

Small compared to what?
 
Hardik Batra said:
jtbell said:
I assume you mean what people (in the US at least) usually call a "Wheatstone bridge", rather than the kind of meter bridge that is used in an audio recording studio:

http://www.sweetwater.com/c434--Mixer_Meter_Bridges

Before reading your post, I had never seen a Wheatstone bridge referred to as a "meter bridge", but a Google search revealed that in some places it does indeed have that name. I've learned something new today! :biggrin:
Ok. I mean wheat stone bridge.

I don't know the limit of small resistance.
 
jtbell said:
I assume you mean what people (in the US at least) usually call a "Wheatstone bridge", rather than the kind of meter bridge that is used in an audio recording studio:

http://www.sweetwater.com/c434--Mixer_Meter_Bridges

Before reading your post, I had never seen a Wheatstone bridge referred to as a "meter bridge", but a Google search revealed that in some places it does indeed have that name. I've learned something new today! :biggrin:



Small compared to what?

On the senior side of the pond, we spell it Metre when we mean the length and Meter when we mean the measuring instrument. There's no confusion that way.:wink:
Most Bridges don't use anything as crude as a length of resistance wire, these days, of course.
Btw, actually how long is the wire that you use in the bridge that consists of a wooden board, brass terminals and an old fashioned galvanometer?
 
The one that we use in our introductory lab apparatus is in fact one meter (metre) long, mounted on top of a meter stick! (which is in turn mounted along with electrical terminals on top of a board)
 
jtbell said:
The one that we use in our introductory lab apparatus is in fact one meter (metre) long, mounted on top of a meter stick! (which is in turn mounted along with electrical terminals on top of a board)

I was visualising a stick with 36 major (inch) divisions on it, with 16 small ones between each pair. :big grin: Good for training in Arithmetic!
 
In meter bridge experiment,
I have resistor values R1 = 0.5 ohm, R2 = unknown(that we want to find. consider R2 has also very small value.)
R3 and R4 decided by moving jokey key on meter wire.

Some one says me you can't use this method because the resistance value is too small.

So this is true or false.

True then which method is used?
 
Hardik Batra said:
In meter bridge experiment,
I have resistor values R1 = 0.5 ohm, R2 = unknown(that we want to find. consider R2 has also very small value.)
R3 and R4 decided by moving jokey key on meter wire.

Some one says me you can't use this method because the resistance value is too small.

So this is true or false.

True then which method is used?

IF you want 0.5Ω to drop a significant voltage across it (which is what a bridge needs, when you get down to it) then you need to pass significant current through it. Isquared R implies that the resistor will be dissipating significant power (more than it is designed for) and it could be roasted.

You can't use a high value of reference resistor or, again, the voltage ratio will be small and difficult to find accurately as the ratio of two lengths of wire. There is also the problem that contact resistance can add to the measured value. (More voltage drop to confuse things)

There has been a lot of work in the past on measuring low resistances - particularly in the context of Measuring Contact Resistance and there have been many improvements on the straight metre bride arrangement. The Kelvin Bridge was one.
Also, if you use AC for the test, you can use a transformer to 'step-up' the value of your test resistor - by a known ratio, and measure this transformed resistance with a straightforward bridge. AC is a good way of seeing (on a scope) any hints of non-linearity, which can occur with low value components - which may have contact resistance problems inside the box.
 

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