Might A Hot Jupiter Require Another Gas Giant - 3-body Problem?

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Hot Jupiters may form close to their stars through complex interactions involving multiple gas giants, suggesting a potential 3-body problem scenario. The discussion posits that another gas giant could have been ejected, allowing one to settle into a tight orbit. Simulations could explore various outcomes of such chaotic interactions, leading to the migration of planets. The migration process is theorized to involve the ejection of numerous smaller objects rather than a single massive one. Despite these theories, our solar system lacks a tight orbital hot Jupiter, raising questions about the dynamics of gas giant formation and migration.
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How might hot jupiters arrrive close in, since gas sufficient for their formation would be seem to be further outward? It might seem to require a 3-body 'solution'. That is, must another gas giant have been in the mix for much earlier stages? Perhaps ejecting 1 giant, and retaining the other in a tight orbit? 3-body problems can result in chaotic motion. But still, through simulations, might one conjure up various possible scenarios of how 1 gas giant ends up in a tight orbit?

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That is an ingenious idea. But what makes you think that Jupiter is too close for a gas giant to form? Have you done any rough calculations?
 
Another exoplanet detection approach: infrared telescope?

If tight orbital hot jupiters are the result of a 3-body or n-body process, in which some are ejected from system, and some migrate into large orbits; then perhaps a dedicated infrared telescope for finding the latter gas giants or brown dwarf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf" database with another viable detection modality?
 
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The planets probably migrated as a result of ejecting trillions of smaller objects, rather than 1 massive object.
 
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tony873004 said:
The planets probably migrated as a result of ejecting trillions of smaller objects, rather than 1 massive object.

Our Ort cloud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ort_cloud" has trillions of objects, although the total mass is not that high; perhaps 3 Earth masses; although the ejected material (from our gas giant interaction) might have been much more (50-100 Earth masses) Yet we don't have a tight orbital hot Jupiter in our system.
 
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