Miniature Black Holes: Calculating Distance from Person

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The problem involves calculating the distance from a person at which the gravitational pull of a miniature black hole matches that of Earth. The context is set within the framework of gravitational forces and involves a black hole with a specified mass and radius, as well as the gravitational acceleration at Earth's surface.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to equate the gravitational forces exerted by the Earth and the black hole, leading to a relationship involving distances and masses. They express uncertainty regarding the distance between the Earth and the person, questioning whether it can be approximated by the radius of the Earth.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in exploring the implications of the problem, with some discussing the feasibility of the existence of such a black hole. While the original poster appears to have arrived at a simpler equation, there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions made regarding the distances involved.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions around the evaporation of miniature black holes, with participants noting that such black holes would likely not persist from the Big Bang due to their rapid evaporation rates. This introduces additional considerations regarding the assumptions of the problem.

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Homework Statement


This problem is awesome! I like this chapter; Its really interesting. I think I just get a little impatient when I can't figure out the answer right away... I appreciate any help.

Miniature black holes: Left over from the big-bang beginning of the universe, tiny black holes might still wander through the universe. If one with a mass of 3 × 1011 kg (and a radius of only 4 × 10-16 m) reached Earth, at what distance from your head would its gravitational pull on you match that of Earth's? Assume free-fall acceleration ag=9.83 m/s2.

Homework Equations


F = (GMm)/r2

G = 6.67x10-11m3/Kgs2
rep = distance to Earth as seen by person
rbp = distance to black hole as seen by person
Me = mass of Earth = 5.96 x 1024 kg
Mp = mass person = not given (probably cancel out somehow)
Mb = mass black hole = 3 × 1011 kg
Rb= radius black hole = 4 × 10-16 m
Re = radius Earth = 6.38 x 106 m

The Attempt at a Solution



want to find distance when forces are equal...
Fep = (G*Me*mp)/rep2
Fbp = (G*Mb*mp)/rbp2
Fep = Fbp

(G*Me*mp)/rep2 = (G*Mb*mp)/rbp2
divide both sides by G and mp
(Me)/rep2 = (Mb)/rbp2

but I am stuck. I think:
rep = distance between Earth and person + Re
and
rbp = distance between person and B.H. + Rb

and I want to solve for "distance between person and B.H." but I don't know "distance between Earth and person". Surely it would be small, but can't be zero... would it just be the radius of the earth? (When I used this in the equation I only got the mass of the black hole as my answer, so I think the equation might be flawed.)

Any suggestions?
 
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This won't be any help, but my distinct impression is that such a black hole would evaporate very quickly (some small fraction of a second) so for one to be still hanging around from the BB is unthinkable.
 
phinds said:
This won't be any help, but my distinct impression is that such a black hole would evaporate very quickly (some small fraction of a second) so for one to be still hanging around from the BB is unthinkable.

Hmm, that is interesting. Thanks for your input.

I finally figured it out. It was WAY simpler than I thought!

I used F=(G*M)/(r + d)2
set this equation equal to the force of Earth (ag--> 9.83)
Then solved for d (d = variable we are looking for)
Yay!
 
phinds said:
This won't be any help, but my distinct impression is that such a black hole would evaporate very quickly (some small fraction of a second) so for one to be still hanging around from the BB is unthinkable.

Evaporation time goes up very quickly with mass. A good approximation for the lifetime of a black hole of mass M is:

T = 8.40716 \times 10^{-17} \left( \frac{M}{kg} \right)^3 sec

For a 3 x 1011 kg mini black hole, that amounts to about 72 billion years!
 
gneill said:
Evaporation time goes up very quickly with mass. A good approximation for the lifetime of a black hole of mass M is:

T = 8.40716 \times 10^{-17} \left( \frac{M}{kg} \right)^3 sec

For a 3 x 1011 kg mini black hole, that amounts to about 72 billion years!

Neat! :approve:
 

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