Minimal Fencing for Building a Rectangular Chicken Coop

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the construction of a rectangular chicken coop with an area constraint of N square units. The farmer aims to minimize the amount of fencing required, which is measured in integer feet.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the dimensions of the coop (x and y) and the area (N), discussing perimeter calculations and the implications of integer constraints. Some participants question how to approach the problem given that N is fixed and not necessarily a perfect square.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the minimization of the perimeter and the feasibility of finding integer dimensions that meet the area requirement. There is recognition of the complexity involved in relating x and y to N, and some guidance has been offered regarding potential approaches.

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Participants note that the area must be as close to N as possible without exceeding it, and there is a specific focus on ensuring that the perimeter remains an integer. The constraints of the problem, including the integer requirement for fencing, are acknowledged.

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A farmer wishes to build a rectangular chicken coop with as close to, but not greater than N square units. He wants to purchase the least amount of fencing possible, but fencing can only be purchase by the integer foot. How does he do this?

P = 2x+2y
N = xy
y=N/x

P = 2x + 2(N/x)

P' = 2 - (2N)/x^2
0 = 2-(2N)/x^2
x = sqrt(N)
y = sqrt(N)

We obviously don't want to just make N a perfect square because the difference between high numbers won't make the square feet near N. Any suggestions to get the integer foot?
 
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You can't "just make N a perfect square" because N is given.
Take x to be the largest integer less than N, y to be x+1.
 
I'm sorry, I don't exactly understand your answer. How would that minimize the perimeter? And in the problem it says you have to be as close to, but not more than N.
 
AvgStudent said:
A farmer wishes to build a rectangular chicken coop with as close to, but not greater than N square units. He wants to purchase the least amount of fencing possible, but fencing can only be purchase by the integer foot. How does he do this?

P = 2x+2y
N = xy
y=N/x

P = 2x + 2(N/x)

P' = 2 - (2N)/x^2
0 = 2-(2N)/x^2
x = sqrt(N)
y = sqrt(N)

We obviously don't want to just make N a perfect square because the difference between high numbers won't make the square feet near N. Any suggestions to get the integer foot?
As the problem is stated here, only the perimeter needs to be an integer.

As long as x and y each is not restricted to being an integer, it's possible to values of x and y so that the area is exactly N, whether or not N is an integer.
 
Ooh. I didn't catch that. Is there a possible way to create a formula to find x and y relating to N? No matter how I think about it, it doesn't apply to all N.
 

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