Model developed from performance curves are dynamic models?

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Modeling a heat exchanger in Simulink using UA curves will not yield a dynamic model since UA represents an instantaneous value, primarily reflecting steady-state conditions. The discussion highlights that heat exchangers are often treated as instantaneously reacting devices due to the significant heat content of other components in systems. While the use of UA in a dynamic context may provide a rough approximation based on current conditions, it lacks the complexity needed for true dynamic modeling. The original poster aims to integrate this heat exchanger model into a larger Simulink model for a rotary air compressor, raising questions about its ability to accurately mimic actual system functionality. Further context about the specific application and system dynamics is necessary for a more precise evaluation.
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I am trying to model a real heat exchanger in simulink. I don't have the geometry data. But I have UA curve with me. If I have developed the model with UA curve, will it be dynamic in nature?
 
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Nope.
 
BvU said:
Nope.
Do you think, is it because the test data gives the details of only at steady state ?
 
I do. UA is an instantaneous value, a curve makes it a function of something.

On the other hand, dynamics of heat exchangers aren't often a focus (except perhaps in textbooks): I've always seen them treated as instantaneously reacting devices because the heat content of vessels, columns and reactors and such was so much greater. Do you have a particular application in mind ?

@Chestermiller : any experience ? -- and shouldn't we let the OP add some more context ?
 
BvU said:
I do. UA is an instantaneous value, a curve makes it a function of something.

On the other hand, dynamics of heat exchangers aren't often a focus (except perhaps in textbooks): I've always seen them treated as instantaneously reacting devices because the heat content of vessels, columns and reactors and such was so much greater. Do you have a particular application in mind ?

@Chestermiller : any experience ? -- and shouldn't we let the OP add some more context ?
I agree. I think we need to hear more details. But it might be a decent approximation if UA where used in a dynamic case based on the instantaneous conditions. It depends.
 
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BvU said:
I do. UA is an instantaneous value, a curve makes it a function of something.

On the other hand, dynamics of heat exchangers aren't often a focus (except perhaps in textbooks): I've always seen them treated as instantaneously reacting devices because the heat content of vessels, columns and reactors and such was so much greater. Do you have a particular application in mind ?

@Chestermiller : any experience ? -- and shouldn't we let the OP add some more context ?
My end objective is to make complete simulink model for rotory air compressor. So this heat exchanger will become one of the subsystem in my model. Can you tell me, if I am using a heat exchanger modeled with this approach can mimic the actual system functionality?
 
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