Modeling a spark gap--How to solve a DE with a step function

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling a spark gap within a circuit, specifically in the context of a Tesla coil. The original poster is attempting to solve a differential equation that involves a step function, expressing uncertainty about the approach to take, particularly regarding the use of Laplace transforms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the possibility of using Laplace transforms and question the feasibility of applying them to a step function dependent on a variable being solved for. There is also a suggestion to consider alternative modeling approaches for the spark gap.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the circuit being modeled and exploring different interpretations of the spark gap's role. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the circuit components and their interactions, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the circuit having multiple time constants, which may complicate the modeling process. The original poster has acknowledged an error in their initial equation, indicating a need for careful consideration of the setup.

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I wish to solve a system of differential equations; however, I am modeling a spark gap by using a step function. How could I solve? I'll provide the first equation below as an example:
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##V_ocos(\omega*t)=\dot Q_1R_1+(Q_2/C_1)(1-U(Q_2-C_1V_o))##
Honestly not sure how to go about this. Again this is one equation of 4 that I have. I considered using Laplace transforms but taking the Laplace transform of a step function whose argument is one of the variables being solved for doesn't seem possible. Also, if there is an alternative way to model a spark gap in a circuit, I would love to be informed of it. Thanks in advance!

(also ##Q_1## and ##Q_2## are the functions of time I wish to solve for)
 
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Could you post the circuit you're trying to model? The RHS suggests a resistor in series with a capacitor "switched" by the spark-gap. Is that O.K?
 
Gordianus said:
Could you post the circuit you're trying to model? The RHS suggests a resistor in series with a capacitor "switched" by the spark-gap. Is that O.K?
I am modeling the basic Tesla coil circuit. In particular, it is this one:
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The resistor isn't shown in this diagram, however. I am treating the spark gap as a capacitor, whose voltage drops to zero once the voltage across it reaches ##V_o##. I actually entered the first equation wrong--its fixed now.
 
Quite a tricky circuit. It has, at least, two widely different time constants. A slow one, related to the charge of the HV capacitor at mains frequency and a fast one, related to the discharge of the HV capacitor on the primary of the HV transformer. In a simple model I'd consider the spark gap as a non-linear resistance instead of a capacitor.
 

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