(molecular spectroscopy)what is the meaning of the symbol

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The discussion centers around the interpretation of the symbol "0oo" in the context of molecular spectroscopy, particularly relating to vibrational modes and transitions. Participants are exploring the meaning of this symbol and its implications for understanding vibrational states in molecular systems.

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  • One participant inquires about the meaning of "0oo" and seeks resources for further understanding.
  • Another participant suggests that "0oo" may represent vibrational modes that are excited and questions whether the context involves a mass spectrum following two-photon excitation.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the significance of a "0 to 0" transition, noting that it seems non-meaningful and references a paper for clarification.
  • A later reply explains that the large number in the symbol corresponds to the ##\nu_1## number of the excited state, while the small superscript indicates the ##\nu_2## quantum number of the excited state, and the subscript refers to the ##\nu_2## vibrational number of the ground state.
  • This participant also discusses the implications of vibrational transitions, mentioning that in electronic transitions, vibrational levels may not need to change, referencing the Franck–Condon principle.

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Participants express differing views on the meaning and significance of the "0 to 0" transition, with some suggesting it is non-meaningful while others provide explanations that imply a more nuanced understanding. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the symbol and the transitions it represents.

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There are limitations in the discussion, including assumptions about the nature of the transitions and the definitions of the vibrational modes that are not fully explored. The context of the mass spectrum and the specifics of the excitation process are also not clearly defined.

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Hi, everyone. In the picture attached, what is the meaning of 0oo? what should I read to understand the meaning?Thank you!
 

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I suppose it is some symbol for vibrational modes excited. Maybe you could write something about what is measured? Is this a mass spectrum after two photon excitation?
 
DrDu said:
I suppose it is some symbol for vibrational modes excited. Maybe you could write something about what is measured? Is this a mass spectrum after two photon excitation?
thank your for your answer! I also think it should be vibraitonal modes exceted. However, what confused me is that 0 to 0 transition is non-meaningful! attached is the paper!
 

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From the paper and ref. 6 therein I understand that the big number is the ##\nu_1## number of the excited state while the small superscript is the ##\nu_2## quantum number of the excited state.
The sub-script is the ##\nu_2## vibrational number of the ground state.
I suppose that due to the higher frequency, the ##\nu_1## mode is never excited in the ground state.
##\nu_1## is the symmetric stretch and ##\nu_2## the out of plane bending mode.

Why is a 0 to 0 transition not meaningful? Take in mind that in electronic transitions, in contrast to IR or Raman purely vibrational transitions, vibrational levels don't have to change (with the exception of symmetry forbidden transitions). See e.g.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck–Condon_principle
 
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