Moment of inertia of a hollow sphere

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia of a hollow sphere, with initial confusion regarding whether the object is a hollow sphere or a solid sphere. Participants clarify that the correct moment of inertia for a hollow sphere is I = (2/3)mR², while the formula for a solid sphere is I = (2/5)mR². The integration process involves using spherical coordinates and recognizing the correct expressions for area and volume elements. A participant corrects their approach after realizing the error in interpreting the perpendicular distance in their calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper coordinate transformations and integration limits in achieving the correct result.
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Homework Statement


Find the moment of inertia of a hollow sphere with mass m and radius R and uniform density

Homework Equations



Since the hollow sphere is an area, the density is mass divided by area, so:

I = \int r^2 dm = \frac{m}{A}\int r^2 dA

The Attempt at a Solution



. The total area is 4pi r^2, so here is what I got

dA = 2\pi \sqrt{R^2-r^2}dr

I = \frac{m}{4\pi R^2} \int_{-R}^{R} r^2(2\pi\sqrt{R^2-r^2})dr

I = \frac{m}{R^2} \int_{0}^{R} r^2\sqrt{R^2-r^2}dr

From here I made the substitution r = R\sin{\theta} and got

I = mR^2 \int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin^2\theta\cos^2\theta d\theta

And that evaluated to pi/16, which brings me to my problemthe correct answer is supposed to be I = \frac{2mR^2}{5}
 
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Is it a hollow sphere(a spherical shell) or a solid sphere? Because the answer that you say is supposed to be correct is for a solid sphere, unless I've made some error. They're both pretty similar and I think you're going to get into trouble if you don't use curvilinear coordinates, at least it was much easier for me to do it that way. My response is to a spherical shell which will not give the answer you say is correct. However, a solid sphere can be done in a similar way and does give the answer you say is correct.

First, something to notice is that in spherical coordinates a volume element is R^2 \sin (\theta) d\theta d\phi dR. For a spherical shell R is constant and the volume element becomes an area element dA= R^2 \sin (\theta) d\theta d\phi. Can you now do the integral keeping in mind that in your initial given equation r is the perpendicular distance from an axis passing through the center of mass? (I assumed it was moment of inertia wrt the center of mass)
 
You are right. I am sorry. I looked up the wrong answer in the chart.

It should be \frac{2mR^2}{3}
I will look into the spherical coordinate method

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Yes, it worked. The error was my r was not actually representing the perpendicular distance.

Here is what I did:

\frac{m}{A}\int r^2 dA

A = 4\pi R^2
r = R\sin\phi (simple spherical geometry)
dA = 2\pi r dz = 2\pi * R\sin\phi * R d\phi (definition of radian and the statement above)
dA = 2\pi R^2 \sin\phi d\phi

plugging in\frac{m}{4\pi R^2} \int_{0}^{\pi} R^2\sin^2\phi * 2\pi R^2 \sin\phi d\phi

\frac{mR^2}{2} \int_{0}^{\pi}\sin^3\phi d\phi

That integral evaluates to 4/3, and bam, it works
Thanks a lot
 
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chickendude said:
\frac{mR^2}{2} \int_{0}^{\pi}\sin^3\phi d\phi

That integral evaluates to 4/3, and bam, it works
Thanks a lot

How would you get 4/3 for the intergral, i used substitution rule and always got 2/3 for the answer.
∫_0^π▒〖sin〗^3 ϕ dϕ=∫_0^π▒〖(1-〖cos〗^2 ϕ)〗sinϕ dϕ
u= cosϕ du=-sinϕ dϕ
so ∫_1^0▒〖-(1-u^2 )du〗=∫_0^1▒〖1-u^2 du〗 = 2/3
what is my problem?
 
You didn't convert the bounds of integration correctly. cos(pi)=-1, not 0.
 
Thanks alot...why I am so stupid...-_-llll
 
HI, I understand everything, except that in the solution, dz is written as R d\phi. why is that? shouldn't it be Rsin(phi)d(phi) or even, if we take x = R*cos(phi) (from that same simple geometry) than dz would be -Rsin(phi)d(phi)
 
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