Moment of inertia of ring with 3 masses on

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a system consisting of three particles on a circular ring. The moment of inertia is calculated using the formula I = Σma², where the contributions from both the particles and the ring must be included. Initial calculations led to confusion about the correct values, with participants correcting each other on the necessary components. The final correct calculation incorporates both the masses of the particles and the mass of the ring, yielding a moment of inertia of 1.26 kgm². The importance of drawing a sketch and applying the Parallel Axis Theorem is emphasized for clarity in such problems.
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Homework Statement


Three particles, each with mass m = 0.5 kg, are fixed on a uniform circular ring of mass M = 2 kg, radius a = 0.6 m and centre O, to form the corners of an equilateral triangle. What is the moment of inertia of this system?

Homework Equations


I = Σma2

The Attempt at a Solution


I = 3(2 x 0.62) = 2.16 kgm2

I'm confused because it is either that or zero and I can never tell when it is zero.

Thank you.
 
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j3dwards said:

Homework Statement


Three particles, each with mass m = 0.5 kg, are fixed on a uniform circular ring of mass M = 2 kg, radius a = 0.6 m and centre O, to form the corners of an equilateral triangle. What is the moment of inertia of this system?

Homework Equations


I = Σma2

The Attempt at a Solution


I = 3(2 x 0.6) = 1.728 kgm

I'm confused because it is either that or zero and I can never tell when it is zero.

Thank you.
The moment of inertia is never zero, unless the mass is zero.

Draw a sketch of the ring and the masses. Use the Parallel Axis Theorem to calculate the MOI of this assembly.
 
SteamKing said:
The moment of inertia is never zero, unless the mass is zero.

Draw a sketch of the ring and the masses. Use the Parallel Axis Theorem to calculate the MOI of this assembly.

So the centre of mass is at O so is the answer just I = 3(2 x 0.62) = 2.16 kgm2
 
j3dwards said:
So the centre of mass is at O so is the answer just I = 3(2 x 0.62) = 2.16 kgm2
Don't forget to include the contribution to the MOI from the ring.
 
SteamKing said:
Don't forget to include the contribution to the MOI from the ring.

Oh I've been doing this very wrong. So is it: I = Σma2 + MR2 = 3(0.5 x 0.62) + (2 x 0.62) = 1.26 kgm2
 
j3dwards said:
Oh I've been doing this very wrong. So is it: I = Σma2 + MR2 = 3(0.5 x 0.62) + (2 x 0.62) = 1.26 kgm2
That looks much better.
 
SteamKing said:
That looks much better.
Thank you so much!
 
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