Moments of Inertia of a Flat Body

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the moments of inertia for a flat body, specifically a rectangular shape with uniform mass distribution. Participants explore the differences between 2D and 3D cases, the implications of thickness, and the methods for determining principal axes and moments of inertia.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in calculating the moments of inertia for a flat rectangular body defined within specific bounds.
  • Another participant suggests treating the flat body as having a very small thickness and questions whether a unit thickness could simplify the problem.
  • A different participant proposes using a double integral approach for calculating moments of inertia, as it may be easier than a triple integral.
  • Concerns are raised about the interpretation of the assignment question, particularly regarding the need to find principal axes and multiple moments of inertia.
  • There is a correction regarding the assumption that one of the moments of inertia is zero, with a participant asserting that none of the moments is zero and emphasizing the importance of identifying principal axes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of thickness and the calculation methods for moments of inertia. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the assignment question or the specifics of the moments of inertia.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge potential complexities in defining the thickness of the flat body and the implications for calculating moments of inertia. There are also unresolved aspects regarding the exact nature of the principal axes and the specific moments to be calculated.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in understanding the calculation of moments of inertia for flat bodies, particularly in the context of homework or academic assignments in physics or engineering.

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How do you take the moments of inertia of a flat body? I know howto take it if it's a 3d body. And the 2d case should be really simpe,but I'm too stupid to figure it out. Can you help me? For example.. Say we have a body that's a rectangle of mass m on |x| < a, |y| < b..? Thanks so much.
 
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Hi hamjam9! :smile:

I assume you're given a mass-per-area instead of a density?

For a "flat" body (no such thing, really :rolleyes:), you just treat it as if it has a very very small thickness. :wink:
 
Or perhaps the thickness doesn't matter. Could it be unit thickness? As long as the density doesn't vary with the z-coordinate of your example.

In any case, I usually find it easier to do a double integral \int \int r^2 \sigma(x,y) dx dy than a triple integral \int \int \int r^2 \sigma(x,y,z) dx dy dz
 
hamjam9 said:
Hey tiny-tim. Thanks for answering my question about moments of inertia. I thought no one would answer it lol. I'm so sorry to PM you but I'm really desperate. I'll be honest, I have assignment due tmrw, and I can't get this one question done !:frown:

"Find the principal axes and moments of inertia of a flat homogeneous rectangular body (|x| ≤ a, |y| ≤ b) of mass m (uniformly distrubuted)."

The question asks to find the 'principal axes' and 'momentS of inertia'. Not just the 'moment' of inertia, but moments.

Now I know I should be taking my origin to be in the dead center of the rectangle, but I'm unsure about how to state what the principal axes are, and then how to get the 3 moments of inertias (I know 1 of those 3 is actually zero, since it's flat). If you could help me that would be so great. I'mso sorry to PM you man.

Hi hamjam9! :smile:

No, none of the moments of inertia is zero.

Look at the PF library on moment of inertia :wink:

Any axis of symmetry is a principal axis.

Any body has a different moment of inertia about every axis …

this question asks you for the ones about the principal axes. :smile:
 

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