Momentum, Energy, and Spring problem

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The problem involves a 0.5kg mass on a spring with a force constant of 55N/m, which is struck by a 0.25kg mass dropped from 12cm. The correct amplitude of the resulting oscillations is 5.97cm, but the initial calculations led to confusion, with one participant mistakenly arriving at 6.97cm. The key to solving the problem lies in correctly applying conservation of momentum and energy principles, specifically avoiding the assumption of an elastic collision. After clarifying the approach, the participant recognized their error in energy conservation, which helped them understand the solution better. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying physics concepts to solve problems effectively.
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Homework Statement



A mass of .5kg is resting on a vertical spring with a force constant of 55N/m. A mass of .25kg is dropped from a height of 12 cm onto the larger mass and sticks to it. What is the amplitude of the resulting oscillations?

Homework Equations



p=mv; m_1v_1 + m_2v_2 = (Mtot)V_f; mgh=1/2mv^2 + 1/2kA^2
V^2=V_o^2 + 2ay

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea how to solve this problem. The answer is 5.97cm, but nothing I came up with is even close to that.

I started off by calculating the initial compression of the spring, since there's a weight resting atop it. F=kx; came out to 8.9cm.

Next, I calculated the velocity of the falling mass as it strikes the resting mass, and got 1.5344 m/s.

Next, I used that velocity in my conservation of momentum calculation and found the velocity of the combined mass velocity to be .5115 m/s.

Finally, I did mgh = .5mv^2 = .5kA^2, and A comes out to 0.0845m, or 8.45cm.

I calculated the initial compression, but didn't use it, and I suspect that has something to do with this, but I just can't seem to wrap my head around it. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
 
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I get x=6.97cm.

But you said it should be 5.97cm, right?
 
Rick88 said:
I get x=6.97cm.

But you said it should be 5.97cm, right?

This was a test question that I missed. The professor released the answer key so we could study for the final (which is this evening), and the answer is 5.97cm. At any rate, 6.97 was not a choice.
 
Oh yeah, I made a mistake.
I'll look into it.
 
Appreciate it. several of my classmates are trying as well, but none of us seem to get it.
 
find the final velocity of both masses together after the 250 hits the 750 and then use
.5mv^2 = .5kA^2
 
oops I meant the .25kg hits the .5 kg
 
That did the trick, thanks! And now I understand what I was doing wrong. I was conserving energy as if it were an elastic collision, thus setting E_i to mgh and E_f to .5mv^2 + .5kA^2. I appreciate the help!
 
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