Momentum in a complicated system

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In a hypothetical scenario involving a series of nested wagons with negligible friction, an external push will initially cause only the outermost wagon to accelerate. Upon collision with the inner wagon, momentum is conserved, leading to a complex interaction where the inner wagons bounce back and forth. The nature of the collisions, assumed to be elastic, complicates the motion of the outer wagon, resulting in irregular movement. The lack of specific initial conditions and parameters limits the ability to predict the system's behavior accurately. Overall, the discussion highlights the challenges of analyzing momentum in a multi-layered system.
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let's assume we have a wagon in a wagon in a wagon and so on, which can move freely. friction is negligible. their mass is same. what will happen if someone gives a push to the whole system?
 

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Hello 5d, :welcome:

If the push is from the outside, only the outer wagon will accelerate.
 
BvU said:
If the push is from the outside, only the outer wagon will accelerate.
Initially.
 
BvU said:
Hello 5d, :welcome:

If the push is from the outside, only the outer wagon will accelerate.
but what happens after the collision of the inner wagon ?
 
ddddd28 said:
but what happens after the collision of the inner wagon ?
Elastic or inelastic?
 
elastic. all the conditions are ideal.
 
Is this a real exercise or a figment of the imagination ?
When the first inner wagon hits the back wall of the outer one, there is a collision, apparently with kinetic energy conservation. But definitely with momentum conservation. Without any givens at all, there isn't much to say about this. Inner wagons will bounce back and forth, so the outer wagon will move irregularly.
 
This is not a real problem. being interested to build that system, since it probably will not perform a "regular motion", but failed to predict it. let's assume each wagon is half of the length of the outer one , and there are four of them, for simplicity. how exactly the outer wagon will move?
 
You forgot to give several needed given data, including the initial conditions for these equations :rolleyes:
 
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