Motion in a Magnetic Field and TV

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field required to deflect an electron beam in an old black and white TV. The user initially calculates the velocity of the electrons after being accelerated through a 50kV potential difference and attempts to determine the magnetic field strength needed for deflection. They arrive at a value of 0.18 T, while the textbook solution indicates 70 mT. The user realizes that the textbook approach involves using the radius of curvature and trigonometric relationships, which differ from their method that considers the magnetic field's limited range. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the geometry of the problem and the correct application of physics principles in such calculations.
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Homework Statement



The Picture tube in an old black and white TV uses magnetic deflection coils rather than electric plates. Suppose an electron beam is accelerated from rest through a 50kV potential difference and then through a region with uniform magnetic field 1cm wide. The screen is located 10cm from the coils and is 50cm wide. When the field is off, the electron beam hits the centre of the screen. Ignoring relativistic corrections, what field magnitude is needed to deflect the beam to the side of the screen.

m_e = 9.11E-31 kg;
q_e = 1.6E-19 C;
delta V = 50E3 V;
d_1 = 0.01m
d_2 = 0.1m
d_3 = 0.5m

Homework Equations



F = qv x B = qvBsin(theta) = qvB (assuming the magnetic field is at right angles);
1/2mv^2 = q*deltaV;
F = ma;
v_f = v_i + at;
v=d/t

The Attempt at a Solution



I will say the velocity from the potential difference is positive x and screen to be in the yz plane. I also assume the magnetic field is pointed in the positive z direction, giving the velocity from magnetic field in the y direction.


First I got the velocity from potential difference.

1/2mv^2=qV
=> v = sqrt(2q_eV/m_e)

Then I worked out the velocity in y from magnetic field, I'll call this v'.

F = qvB = ma
=> a=qvB/m.
v'_f = v'_i + at v'_i = 0;
v'_f = at =qvBd_1/mv = qBd_1/m_e (using t = d_1/v)

Now, time taken for beam to travel 0.1m in x is

t = d/v = 0.1/sqrt(2q_eV/m_e) = 7.5E-10

Beam must travel d_3/2 = 0.25m in this time, so v' = d/t becomes

0.25/7.5E-10 = 3.3E8.

We have v' = qBd_1/m_e.

Rearranging I got

B = m_e v/q_e d_1.

Plugging in numbers I get B =0.18 T.

The answer the book gives is 70 mT.





In the solutions the book works out R as a radius of curvature from Pythagorus and uses qvB=mv^2/R. My problem with this is that the magnetic field only exists for 0.01m, not 0.1m which is what they use.


Any help/pointing out the obvious and making me feel like an idiot will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Michael.
 
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Ok, I see what they do in the solutions now.

They use trig and get R for the magnetic field (giving it value 1.08cm) the use qvB=mv^2/R, solve for B and get the answer. I know my way is a lot messier than that, but why doesn't it work?
 
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