Motor Principle - Direction of Rotation

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The discussion centers on determining the direction of rotation of a wire loop in an increasing magnetic field, utilizing Lenz's law and Fleming's left-hand rule. Participants clarify that the direction of the induced current affects the turning moment but not its magnitude. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the Lorentz Force and Faraday's law, particularly that maximum induced electromotive force (emf) occurs when the loop is perpendicular to the magnetic field. Misinterpretations regarding the diagram and the absence of current direction in the coil are also addressed.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lenz's law and its application in electromagnetic induction
  • Familiarity with Fleming's left-hand rule for determining force direction
  • Knowledge of Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction
  • Basic principles of the Lorentz Force acting on current-carrying conductors
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  • Explore the principles of AC induction motors and their operational mechanics
  • Investigate the relationship between magnetic flux and induced emf in circuits
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Evening,

I'm trying to work out the direction a loop of wire will rotate about an axis in an increasing magnetic field.

From what I understand by Lenz's law the induced current in the loop will create it's own magnetic field as to counteract the change in external magnetic field. I'm struggling by Fleming's left hand rule however to determine a direction of rotation.

I have attached an image, if somebody could clear this up this will definitely put me at rest.

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Cheers
Dan
 
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You are mixing up a lot of physics ideas.
This is about the FORCE on a current carying conductor in a magnetic field.
Fleming's Left hand rule gives the direction of the force.
Your diagram does not show the direction of the current in the coil of wire!
You need to know that
 
technician said:
You are mixing up a lot of physics ideas.
This is about the FORCE on a current carying conductor in a magnetic field.
Fleming's Left hand rule gives the direction of the force.
Your diagram does not show the direction of the current in the coil of wire!
You need to know that

The direction of the current just affects the direction of the turning moment,not the magnitude.

Lenz's law will only come into play once the coil starts to move and will limit the acceleration.
 
technician said:
You are mixing up a lot of physics ideas.
This is about the FORCE on a current carying conductor in a magnetic field.
Fleming's Left hand rule gives the direction of the force.
Your diagram does not show the direction of the current in the coil of wire!
You need to know that

Sorry perhaps I should elaborate,

In this example what I am saying is the magnetic field shown in blue is increasing in the direction shown. Therefore an emf will be induced in the wire equal to the rate of change of this magnetic flux (Faraday's law). This emf will produce a current in the direction according to Lenz's law.

The induced current will obviously create it's own magnetic field as such to oppose the changing magnetic field (Lenz's law). It is the direction of which I am struggling to ascertain. So this loop is now carrying current and so should experience a force equal to the Lorentz Force (except the current is changing).

I am thinking about the AC induction motor where in this example the wire loop is the stator and the N-S pole is coil wound in the stator.

Thanks
Dan
 
My apologies fonz! I mis-read. Your first sentence. I thought you were looking at a coil with current flowing in it.
 
The way your diagram is drawn there is nof flux linking (going through) the loop and therefore the increasing magnetic field will not induce an emf.
If the loop is at 90 degrees to the field then the maximum induced emf (and therefore current) will be induced.
The emf is given by Faraday's law = rate of change of magnetic flux linkage and the direction of the emf and resulting current will try to prevent the change (increasing magnetic flux) occurring.
 

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