Moving electron - finding the wavefunction

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The discussion revolves around finding the wavefunction of an electron moving from left to right with a specified energy of 100 eV. The subject area includes quantum mechanics, specifically the Schrödinger equation and the concepts of kinetic and rest energy in the context of relativistic and non-relativistic physics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the wavefunction using both the total energy and kinetic energy, leading to confusion about the appropriate energy to use in the calculation of the constant L. Some participants question the validity of using the relativistic energy expression in a non-relativistic context.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of energy in the context of classical approximations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct approach to defining the wavefunction and the role of kinetic versus rest energy. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the original poster's reasoning.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted tension between the classical approximation and the relativistic framework, particularly regarding the treatment of rest energy in calculations. The discussion highlights the complexities involved in transitioning between these two regimes.

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Homework Statement


On our modern physics class e did a problem:
Write down a wavefunction of an electron which is mooving from left to
right and has an energy ##100eV##.
At first i said: "Oh i know this!" and solved the case like this.

Homework Equations


Lorentz invariant: ##E=\sqrt{{E_0}^2 + p^2c^2}##
Schrödinger equation where ##V(x)=0##.

The Attempt at a Solution


The energy ##100eV## must be the kinetic energy of the electron. So i said ok this kinetic energy is very small compared to the rest energy and i can say that ##pc \ll E_0## which means i have a classical limit where:

\begin{align}
E=\sqrt{{E_0}^2 + p^2c^2}\\
E=\sqrt{{E_0}^2 + 0}\\
\boxed{E=E_0}
\end{align}

So now i can write the general wavefunction for a free right-mooving particle like this:

$$\psi=Ae^{iLx}\quad L=\sqrt{\tfrac{2mE}{\hbar^2}}$$

So if i want to get the speciffic solution i need to calculate the constant ##L## and then normalise the ##\psi##. Because ##E=E_0## i calculated the constant ##L## like this:

$$L=\sqrt{\frac{2mE_0}{\hbar^2}}$$

while my professor states that i should do it like this:

$$L=\sqrt{\frac{2mE_k}{\hbar^2}}$$

where ##E_k## is the kinetic energy of the electron. Who is wrong? I mean whaaaaat? The constant ##L## is afterall defined using the full energy and not kinetic energy...
 
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You're wrong. Both your expression for L and the Schrödinger equation are non-relativistic. It's not appropriate to use the relativistic expression for the energy of the electron here.
 
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Thank you.

But can you explain to me why don't we generaly use the rest energy when dealing with a classical approximations. In books everyone explains the rest energy but what it really is? I mean i know how to calculate it and whatsoever but when does it appear and why do we have to take it into the calculation?

I am confused only because of that Lorentz invariance which says that if a particle is mooving slowly most of its energy is the rest energy. On the other hand we just neglect it like it isn't there... It seems to me like a contradiction...
 
It's just the way you're doing the classical approximation isn't correct. A plane wave is given by $$\psi = e^{i(kx-\omega t)}$$ where ##p= \hbar k## and ##E = \hbar \omega##. For the spatial dependence, you need to find the classical approximation for the momentum p:
\begin{align*}
pc &= \sqrt{E^2 - (mc^2)^2} \\
&= \sqrt{(mc^2+K)^2 - (mc^2)^2} \\
&= \sqrt{2mc^2 K + K^2} \\
&\cong \sqrt{2mc^2 K}
\end{align*} where K is the kinetic energy. The rest energy term cancels out.

The other way to look at it is that ##k = \sqrt{\frac{2mE}{\hbar^2}}## is equivalent to the relationship ##E = \frac{(\hbar k)^2}{2m} = \frac{p^2}{2m}##. This latter expression is clearly the classical quantity for the kinetic energy of a particle of mass m, not the total energy.
 
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