Multi-Particle QM Homework: Hamiltonian & Vacuum State

In summary: Thanks!In summary, the conversation discusses the use of the gradient operator in the Hamiltonian equation and how it acts on the wave function and the delta function. It is explained that the operator involves derivatives with respect to the coordinates of x and not x1 or x2. It is also mentioned that the operator acting on the wave function gives zero, but when it acts on the delta function, it can be integrated by parts to make it act on the wave function. The conversation also addresses the integration of x and the replacement of x with x1 due to the presence of the delta function.
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binbagsss
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Homework Statement



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Just number 1 please

Homework Equations



Hamiltonian is given by eq ? In the attachment

##\phi(x_1,x_2,...x_n,t)= \int dx_1...dx_n \phi(x_1,x_2...x_n,t) a^+(x_1)...a^(x_n) |0> ##

Where ## |0> ## is the vacuum state and ##a(x) |0>=0##

The Attempt at a Solution


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I can follow the solution and it make sense wanting to move the derivative from delta to the wave function, however, I thought the gradient operator would act on everything to the right, and so you would use a product rule here..so we would get a term where it acts in the delta and the w.f multiplies it as given, as well as and a term where it acts on the wave function and the delta just multiplies it

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Many thanks
 

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binbagsss said:
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as well as and a term where it acts on the wave function and the delta just multiplies it
The ##\nabla^2## operator involves derivatives with respect to the coordinates associated with ##\vec x## and not with respect to the coordinates of ##\vec x_1## or ##\vec x_2##. Since ##\psi## is a function of ##\vec x_1## and ##\vec x_2##, but not of ##\vec x##, the operator ##\nabla^2## acting on the wavefunction gives zero.

When ##\nabla^2## acts on ##\delta^{(3)}(\vec x - \vec x_1)## you can show ##\nabla^2 \delta^{(3)}(\vec x - \vec x_1) = \nabla_1^2 \delta^{(3)}(\vec x - \vec x_1)## where ##\nabla_1^2## acts on the coordinates of ##\vec x_1##. This allows you to integrate by parts twice (with respect to the coordinates of ##\vec x_1##) to make ##\nabla_1^2## act on the wavefunction.
 
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TSny said:
The ##\nabla^2## operator involves derivatives with respect to the coordinates associated with ##\vec x## and not with respect to the coordinates of ##\vec x_1## or ##\vec x_2##. Since ##\psi## is a function of ##\vec x_1## and ##\vec x_2##, but not of ##\vec x##, the operator ##\nabla^2## acting on the wavefunction gives zero.

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Omg, thank you !
 
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binbagsss said:
Omg, thank you !
TSny said:
The ##\nabla^2## operator involves derivatives with respect to the coordinates associated with ##\vec x## and not with respect to the coordinates of ##\vec x_1## or ##\vec x_2##. Since ##\psi## is a function of ##\vec x_1## and ##\vec x_2##, but not of ##\vec x##, the operator ##\nabla^2## acting on the wavefunction gives zero.

When ##\nabla^2## acts on ##\delta^{(3)}(\vec x - \vec x_1)## you can show ##\nabla^2 \delta^{(3)}(\vec x - \vec x_1) = \nabla_1^2 \delta^{(3)}(\vec x - \vec x_1)## where ##\nabla_1^2## acts on the coordinates of ##\vec x_1##. This allows you to integrate by parts twice (with respect to the coordinates of ##\vec x_1##) to make ##\nabla_1^2## act on the wavefunction.

Hi ok I've done this but for the x integration to remove the dx and delta, there are no terms to replace x by ##x_1##. ... ?
 
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binbagsss said:
Hi ok I've done this but for the x integration to remove the dx and delta, there are no terms to replace x by ##x_1##. ... ?
There's the creation operator at the beginning of the integrand which depends on ##\vec x##.
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This ##\vec x## will get replaced by ##\vec x_1## when integrating over ##d^3x## due to the delta function ##\delta^{(3)}(\vec x-\vec x_1)##.
 

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TSny said:
There's the creation operator at the beginning of the integrand which depends on ##\vec x##.
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This ##\vec x## will get replaced by ##\vec x_1## when integrating over ##d^3x## due to the delta function ##\delta^{(3)}(\vec x-\vec x_1)##.
A-ha I must be blind.
 

1. What is the Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics?

The Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics is a mathematical operator that represents the total energy of a system. It includes the kinetic and potential energies of all the particles in the system and is used to describe the time evolution of the system.

2. How is the Hamiltonian operator related to the Schrödinger equation?

The Schrödinger equation is a fundamental equation in quantum mechanics that describes the time evolution of a quantum system. The Hamiltonian operator is used in the Schrödinger equation to calculate the energy of the system at different points in time.

3. What is the vacuum state in quantum mechanics?

The vacuum state, also known as the ground state, is the lowest energy state of a quantum system. It is the state in which all the particles are in their lowest possible energy levels and there is no energy or motion present in the system.

4. How is the vacuum state related to the Hamiltonian operator?

The vacuum state is the state in which the Hamiltonian operator has its lowest eigenvalue, meaning it has the lowest possible energy. The Hamiltonian operator is used to calculate the energy of a system, so the vacuum state is often used as a reference point when solving for the energy levels of a system.

5. Can the vacuum state have any particles in it?

No, the vacuum state is defined as the state with no particles present and no energy. However, fluctuations in the vacuum state can create particle-antiparticle pairs that exist for a very short period of time before annihilating each other, but these do not count as particles in the vacuum state itself.

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