Multivariable calculus, Integral using spherical coordinates

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around setting up a triple integral using spherical coordinates for the function f(x,y,z) = x(x^2+y^2+z^2)^(-3/2) over the specified region defined by the inequality x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ≤ 16 and the plane z ≥ 2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the bounds for ρ, ϕ, and θ in spherical coordinates, with some uncertainty about the correct limits. There is an exploration of how the plane z=2 intersects with the sphere, affecting the bounds for ρ and ϕ. Various interpretations of the region in three-dimensional space are presented.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the bounds for the integral, with some providing insights on how to determine the limits based on the geometry of the region. There is a mix of suggestions and questions regarding the setup, indicating a collaborative effort to refine the understanding of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the need to consider the intersection of the plane z=2 with the sphere, which influences the bounds for ρ and ϕ. Participants are also discussing the implications of choosing different ranges for θ on the overall setup.

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Homework Statement


Using spherical coordinates, set up but DO NOT EVALUATE the triple integral of f(x,y,z) = x(x^2+y^2+z^2)^(-3/2) over the ball x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ≤ 16 where 2 ≤ z.


Homework Equations


x = ρ sin ϕ cos θ
y = ρ sin ϕ sin θ
z = ρ cos ϕ
ρ^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2

∫∫∫w f(x,y,z) dxdydz
= ∫from θ1 to θ2 ∫from ϕ1 to ϕ2 ∫from ρ1 to ρ2 f(ρ*sinϕcosθ,ρ*sinϕsinθ,ρ*cosϕ) (ρ^2*sinϕ dρ dϕ dθ)


The Attempt at a Solution


First, I graphed xy, xz, yz plane, and from there I tried to find θ, ϕ, and ρ. For ρ, I got 0≤ρ≤4, I am not too sure about the bottom bound (0). For ϕ, I got 0 ≤ ϕ≤ pi/4, I was told that the top bound (pi/4) is wrong. For θ, I got 0 ≤ θ ≤ pi, I think both the bounds are right for this one.

Then I plugged them into the triple intergal and changed x(x^2+y^2 + z^2)^(-3/2) into spherical coordinate to get "ρ^-2*sinϕcosθ"

∫from 0 to pi ∫from 0 to pi/4 ∫from 0 to 4 ρ^-2*sinϕcosθ (ρ^2*sinϕ dρ dϕ dθ)
= ∫from 0 to pi ∫from 0 to pi/4 ∫from 0 to 4 (sinϕ)^2 cosθ dρ dϕ dθ

Can you please help me find the correct bounds for θ, ϕ, and ρ and I believe the function in spherical coodinates is right. Thanks in advance.
 
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hi wildleaf! :smile:

(have a a pi: π and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
wildleaf said:
For ρ, I got 0≤ρ≤4, I am not too sure about the bottom bound (0). For ϕ, I got 0 ≤ ϕ≤ pi/4, I was told that the top bound (pi/4) is wrong. For θ, I got 0 ≤ θ ≤ pi, I think both the bounds are right for this one.

yes, in this as in many integrals over a sphere, you can have either 0 ≤ θ ≤ π or 0 ≤ θ ≤ 2π … which one you use for θ will affect the limits you use for ϕ :smile:

before we go any further, how would you describe the region (in words)? :wink:
 
ρ doesn't go from 0 because you have that plane at z=2 and figure out where that intersects the sphere it will help with the angle. I don't want to help to much.
 
In the xy plane, the region is a circle with radius of 4. The yz and xz plane looks similar, it also a circle with radius 4 but there is a line z = 2, and we want the top of the circle. HELP! ME!
 
In the xyz space, it would want the top half of the circle.
 
on the bounds of rho , we have z=2 and z=\rho cos(\phi)
so \rho will go from 2sec(\phi) to 4 and that will make sure we are in the top half of the sphere .
 
Ohhh...
This is if I choose 0 ≤ θ ≤ π ?
 
θ will go from 0 to 2π . ϕ will go from 0 to where the plane intersects the sphere. which would be. and rho will go to what i said above.
 
0 ≤ θ ≤ 2n, 2sec(ϕ) ≤ ρ ≤ 4, 0 ≤ ϕ ≤ pi/4?
 
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everything looks good except that top bound for ϕ , cos(ϕ)=1/2
what angle has a cosine of 1/2 , i got the 1/2 from 2/4
 

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