Musical Frequencies Overtones, ratios

In summary: The ratio of masses is equal to the ratio of tensions, so TC/TD = Square root (Ft * L)/(m)This can be simplified to T/TD = Square root (Ft * L)/(m)This can also be simplified to TC = Square root (T * L)/(m)This can be simplified to TC = T
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Homework Statement


Two strings on a musical instrument are tuned to play at 262 Hz (C) and 294 Hz (D).

Questions:
1. If the two strings have the same length and are under the same tension, what must be the ratio of their masses (MC/MD)?
2. If the strings, instead, have the same mass per unit length and are under the same tension, what is the ratio of their lengths (LC/LD)?
3. If their masses and lengths are the same, what must be the ratio of the tensions in the two strings? (TC/TD)
 
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These questions all require one formula, the one that expresses the frequency of vibration of the string in terms of the tension, length and mass per unit length.
Do you have this formula in your book or lecture notes?
 
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V = Square root (Ft * L)/m
 
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Well, then you write down the equation for case 1 (262 Hz) and case 2 (294Hz). Then you solve the equations. Hopefully, you know how to solve first degree equations.

It should be noted that the frequencies given are musically inaccurate. 262 Hz differs from C by about 2.48 cents, and 294 Hz differs from D by about 1.98 cents.
 
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tigerwoods99 said:
V = Square root (Ft * L)/m

This gives the speed of the wave on the string, and is usually written

v = √(T/μ) where T is tension in Newton, and μ is mass per unit length of string

You now need to say how this speed, v, is related to the frequency of the wave in the string.
You should also have a formula relating speed, frequency and wavelength for a wave.

Just remember that for the string wave, the wavelength is two times the length of the string. Substitute for v in the other equation and arrange it so that you have f= (instead of v=)
 
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so : (Frequency)(2L) = square root (FT * L)/(m)

{(frequency)(2L)} ^2 = (Ft *L)/(m)
and then what do i do? for the first one and the rest of them?

thanks!
 
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tigerwoods99 said:
so : (Frequency)(2L) = square root (FT * L)/(m)

{(frequency)(2L)} ^2 = (Ft *L)/(m)
and then what do i do? for the first one and the rest of them?

thanks!

Write the equation with just f on the left and put the frequency values in, then you will have two equations

262=
294=

To find the ratios the question wants, divide the one equation by the other
262/294 =
noting which quantities are the same in the two equations and cancelling them out when possible.
 

1. What are musical frequencies and overtones?

Musical frequencies refer to the specific vibrations or cycles per second that create sound waves, measured in Hertz (Hz). Overtones are additional vibrations that occur simultaneously with the fundamental frequency, giving a sound its unique timbre or quality.

2. How are overtones related to ratios in music?

Overtones in music are created through the principle of harmonics, where the ratio of the frequency of each overtone to the fundamental frequency is a whole number. For example, the first overtone is twice the frequency of the fundamental, the second overtone is three times the frequency, and so on.

3. What is the significance of ratios in musical frequencies?

Ratios in musical frequencies create intervals, which are the basis for all musical scales and chords. These intervals create a sense of harmony and balance in music, and different ratios can evoke different emotions or moods.

4. How do musical frequencies and overtones affect the perception of sound?

Musical frequencies and overtones can greatly impact the way we perceive sound. The presence or absence of certain overtones can change the timbre of a sound, and the ratio of overtones can create dissonance or consonance. Additionally, certain frequencies and overtones can be more pleasing or unpleasant to the human ear.

5. Do different cultures or musical traditions use different ratios and overtones?

Yes, different cultures and musical traditions may use different ratios and overtones in their music. For example, Western music typically uses equal temperament tuning, while some Eastern cultures use just intonation, which creates different ratios and overtones. Additionally, some cultures have different musical scales and intervals based on their unique ratios and overtones.

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