News My University is closed monday, they're supporting the strike.

[Smurf]

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/workplace/archives/2005_10.php

Background information:
-Teachers union in BC is striking because they want more money.
-It was declared an illegal strike by the courts
-They decided to do it anyway.
-My University decided to support them.

How much does this suck?
Stupid unions.

 

[jimmie]

While the learning process is most effective when the student subjects their "self" to the teacher, so as to be taught, efficiently, do you believe it is possible, Smurf, that a strike would not affect the learning process of a "pro-active" student because such a student would continue assimilating knowledge of a particular subject with the same, readily available sources of information of the particular subject the said student sought to learn?

 

[Smurf]

That's the point, my sources of information have just been curbed.
Unless all my professors cross the picket line (ha!)

 

[jimmie]

Oh.

 

[Math Is Hard]

That's the point, my sources of information have just been curbed.
Unless all my professors cross the picket line (ha!)

That does suck. We have to deal with frequent strikes here at the Uni where I work. I am not at all supportive of them. So when you said the university was supporting the strike, did they actually lock up the bldg. to keep people from entering? Did anyone try to cross the picket line?

 

[Smasherman]

When I changed from wanting to get good grades and thus became wealthy later in life to wanting to learn to better myself, I began wanting to go to school to learn. Though innately I can't say that a university strike is good or not, it seems counter-productive to close off the means of learning, and thus improvement, even if wages are unacceptable.

However, there is much free information available, so the closing of a university should not be crippling, only inconvenient.

 

[Dooga Blackrazor]

While I do think unions are annoying, I believe it is better for the workers. There might be a better solution for everyone, but I haven't researched the matter.

I emphasize with your situation; however, I support the BC teachers on going against the government law. It brings attention to the fact that we need a worker protection method more efficient than unions - something that let's them keep working -, and it highlights the fact that education needs to be taken seriously.

 

[fourier jr]

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/workplace/archives/2005_10.php
Background information:
-Teachers union in BC is striking because they want more money.
-It was declared an illegal strike by the courts
-They decided to do it anyway.
-My University decided to support them.
How much does this suck?
Stupid unions.

it doesn't suck; teachers in BC get treated like ****. when my old rowing coach was young each dept in his high school (in st catharines) had its own markers & secretaries. teachers only had to do their prep. in bc teachers have to do all their own marking, prep, paperwork/admin stuff, etc etc, & all on their own time, sometimes to 10pm or later. i know because my dad's a teacher. (my mom works for telus too incidentally... it won't be long before they start coming to me for $$$ i think)

the teachers also don't like the heavihandedness of the government, legislating a "contract" on them (bill 12 passed a couple weeks ago)

 

[Smurf]

Fourier... The average BC teacher earns $60,581. The minimum wage for a teacher with a BA in Education is $35,000. Over the past 15 years the ratio of educators to students has increased by about... oohh... 1.1 students.

And don't give me that crap about a shortage of teachers. That's the unions fault in the first place for imposing those ridiculous requirements to join the union.

http://www.bctf.ca/ResearchReports/2004td01/report.html"


btw, I was wrong it wasn't the teachers who walked out, it was a CUPI walk out. So the gym was closed (didn't get to go to yoga) and the bookstore (my new econ textbook was supposed to be in today) and some other facilities that I (mostly) don't care about.

I did get to go to class and I did get to use the library.

 

[Pengwuino]

Demand your money back smurf :P
Or well... you probably wouldn't get more back then it costs to drive up and get the refund :P

 

[Smurf]

I thought about doing that. If I actually do end up missing more than one or two classes I will be really pissed because that's MY ass that has to do the make up work and doesn't get those lessons to help me understand the material. There's this one guy in Vancouver who's trying to do a class action lawsuit against the BCTF. We'll see what happens.

 

[Smurf]

I thought about doing that. If I actually do end up missing more than one or two classes I will be really pissed because that's MY ass that has to do the make up work and doesn't get those lessons to help me understand the material. There's this one guy in Vancouver who's trying to do a class action lawsuit against the BCTF. We'll see what happens.

 

[dduardo]

Look on the bright side: No School = More time on PF

 

[Smurf]

Unfortunately no.

No School = More time looking for a job.

 

[loseyourname]

Have any of the non-skilled labor at your school walked out as well? You could always try being a scab.

 

[Smurf]

It's pretty much only the non-skilled labour that's walking out. Well, at least not very-skilled labour. It's like Cashiers and such.*

I wouldn't mind being a scab. I'm unsure what the other affects of that would be, there's a lot of people getting upset about this. I don't want to make myself anymore of a target, I'm disliked enough as it is.

That's got to be the worst part about BC, it's very pro-union. If I become a scab at my uni it might hamper my ability to get a real (permanent) job later.

*There's the possibility more of the staff might join them later.

 

[Aneleh]

My school isn't going to be closed on friday. But the TA's are not supposed to work. The good news is because of the rumored bus driver strike (good news for me at least ) one of my midterms is rescheduled to next week!

 

[neurocomp2003]

lol when it happened to mac like 3-4 years ago...one of my cool teachers was like yea if you wanted to learn we'll just go to a timmies and i'll teach you guys there.

 

[neurocomp2003]

lol when it happened to mac like 3-4 years ago...one of my cool teachers was like yea if you wanted to learn we'll just go to a timmies and i'll teach you guys there. But the strike was resolved early.

 

[Entropy]

How can you say that's bad?! NO SCHOOL!