Natural Log on Radioactive Decay Formula

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The discussion focuses on solving a radioactive decay problem involving the isotope 24Na, with an initial amount of 10^10 atoms and a half-life of 15 hours. The key formula used is N = N0 * e^(-λt), where λ is the decay constant, but the user struggles with the natural logarithm and the exponential function without a calculator. Alternative explanations emphasize understanding half-life intuitively, noting that after 24 hours, the amount of atoms remaining can be approximated without complex calculations. The final goal is to determine the amount of disintegrated atoms, which is calculated to be 0.67 x 10^10. The discussion highlights the importance of grasping fundamental concepts over memorizing formulas for exam success.
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Homework Statement



The initial amount of radioactive atoms on a sample of 24Na is 10^10. It's half-life corresponds to 15 hours. Give the amount of 24Na atoms that will disintegrate in 1 day.

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I started to solve it using the formula N=Initial Amount of Atoms / e^(λxTime/Half-Life) which ended up as:
10^10 / e^(0.693x24/15)
It is supposed to give me the amount of atoms that did not disintegrate in 1 day so I can continue with the problem but my biggest issue here is understanding how to take the natural log (e) to get to the result which is said to be 0.33x10^10.
Can somedoby please give me easy step by step explanation on the operation above?
Please help before I go crazy. I have an exam soon on which I can NOT use a calculator and it's really important.

The Attempt at a Solution


Final answer is: Initial amount of atoms - Atoms that did not disintegrate= 0.67x10^10. I just do not know how to get there since I got stuck at the formula above. I don't know what to do with the "e" on it.
 
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"e" is the base of the natural logarithms, e = 2.71828...

Your calculator should have an ##e^x## function button on it.
 
The basic formula is N = N0exp(-t/T). Letting N = N0/2 let's you solve for the half-life t1/2 = T*ln(2). So, given t1/2 you know T, and now use the basic formula with t = 24 hrs to get N(24hrs).

It's better to derive from fundamentals than memorize formulas which may or may not work out.

Of course,your answer needs to be N0 - N(24hrs).
 
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hi jucristina! welcome to pf! :smile:
jucristina said:
… I have an exam soon on which I can NOT use a calculator …

forget the formula, just look at the obvious meaning of half-life :wink:

after 15 hours, it's 1/2, after 30 hours it's 1/4 etc

so after 24 hours it's 1/224/15 = 1/28/5

28 = 256, 35 = 243 (and yes, you should know these!),

so 28/5 must be just over 3 :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
28 = 256, 35 = 243 (and yes, you should know these!),

so 28/5 must be just over 3 :smile:

What sort of arcana is this? :bugeye:
 
Thank you so much! :!) Internet is amazing and I really appreciate you smart people behind it who make this a fantastic tool for learning. :smile:

So now I know that e = 2.71828 and if I use this value on the exercise I posted I can easily find the correct answer. Alright. Gneill mentioned using a calculator but calculators are NOT allowed on exams. Any good idea of how to solve it without one?
Because right now it seems easy but if I have to find 2.71828^1.1088 during my test I will have no idea of where to start from. :|

I will also try to follow the thinking of the other people who answered my topic.
Thank you so much again!
 
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