Natural Logarithm of Negative Numbers

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The discussion centers on solving the equation (-2)^n = 16 and the complexities arising from taking the natural logarithm of negative numbers. It highlights that while n=4 is a solution, it is not the only one due to the multivalued nature of logarithms. The correct approach involves recognizing that ln(-2) can be expressed with a principal value and an integer multiple of πi, leading to infinitely many solutions. The conversation emphasizes that n=4 is the only pure real solution among these. Overall, the problem illustrates the intricacies of logarithmic functions in complex analysis.
prasannapakkiam
Well I came across this when someone asked me this question:

(-2)^n = 16

I can clearly see n=4. However, he did this:

ln((-2)^n) = ln(16)
n*ln(-2) = ln(16)
n*ln(2)+n*i*pi = ln(16)

How can I show that n=4 from this?
 
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It's because n=4 isn't the only possible solution. Remember that log is a multivalued function (like arcsin) -- so introduce the necessary parametrisation, and see that it can be set to zero.
 
Log is a multivalued function since e^x is a periodic function. Remember that Euler showed that

e^{ix} = \cos{x} + i\sin{x} and hence we have that e^x = e^{x + 2\pi i n and more general since a^x = e^{\ln{a} x} it's true that a^x is a periodic function.
 
Can someone please Exemplify? I get what they say; but I am still stuck...
 
prasannapakkiam said:
However, he did this:

ln((-2)^n) = ln(16)
n*ln(-2) = ln(16)
n*ln(2)+n*i*pi = ln(16)

How can I show that n=4 from this?

You can't, because your friend made a mistake. As written, n=4 is not a solution. He should have used

\begin{align*}<br /> \ln(-2) &amp;= \text{Ln}(2) + (1 + 2k) \pi i \\<br /> \ln(16) &amp;= \text{Ln}(16) + 2m\pi i<br /> \end{align*}

where \text{Ln}(x) is the principal value of the natural logarithm and k and m are abitrary integers.

Applying the above to n\ln(-2) = \ln(16) yields

n(\text{Ln}(2) + (1 + 2k) \pi i) = \text{Ln}(16) + 2m\pi i

From this you should be able to show that n=4 is but one of infinitely many solutions and also that n=4 is the only pure real solution.
 
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