Near and Far Field Attenuation Inverse Laws

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical proof of attenuation laws in near-field and far-field scenarios, specifically focusing on the inverse cube law (1/d^3) for near-field and the inverse law (1/d) for far-field. Participants are exploring how these relationships translate into decibel (dB) scales, specifically 60 dB/decade and 20 dB/decade, respectively.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the equation 20 log (D) to convert distance relationships into dB scales. There is a question regarding the justification of using this equation in the context of the problem. One participant expresses concern about potentially overlooking a broader understanding of the proof.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the mathematical approach to the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the simplicity of the proof, but also a recognition of the need for deeper understanding. No consensus has been reached, but participants are engaging with the concepts presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of using logarithmic relationships in the context of attenuation laws, and there may be assumptions about the familiarity with control theory and dB conversions that are not explicitly stated.

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Homework Statement



near-field distance attenuation follows an inverse cube law (1/d^3), while in the far-field it follows inverse law (1/d). Prove mathematically how we arrive at 60dB/decade from the inverse distance cube relation and 20dB/decade from the inverse distance
relation.

Homework Equations


20 log (D) where D is the distance


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty sure this problem is similar to control theory in converting magnitude to DB scale with 20 log (D). I can actually see the answer just by doing that; however, I'm thinking I'm missing the big picture somewhere by doing that. Mostly I can't seem to justify using the above equation.
 
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teknodude said:

Homework Statement



near-field distance attenuation follows an inverse cube law (1/d^3), while in the far-field it follows inverse law (1/d). Prove mathematically how we arrive at 60dB/decade from the inverse distance cube relation and 20dB/decade from the inverse distance
relation.

Homework Equations


20 log (D) where D is the distance


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty sure this problem is similar to control theory in converting magnitude to DB scale with 20 log (D). I can actually see the answer just by doing that; however, I'm thinking I'm missing the big picture somewhere by doing that. Mostly I can't seem to justify using the above equation.

What is log(1/d^3) ?
 
Maybe I was thinking too much and thought there was more to the proof than just doing 20log(1/d^3) and 20 log (1/d). Thanks.
 
Glad to help. :biggrin:
 

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