Need help for electromagnetic repulsion device

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and calculations needed for a device that utilizes sound and electromagnetic forces to open molds that have been plasticized together. Participants explore the feasibility of using sound pressure and electromagnetic repulsion, particularly focusing on the specifics of the mold's dimensions and materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Thomas is exploring the use of sound to create a force that can open a mold, questioning whether to calculate sound pressure or another metric.
  • Thomas mentions directing sound into a small hole in the mold, suggesting that this may increase pressure as the sound reflects back to the lid.
  • Another participant discusses the potential for an electromagnetic device to repel a lid from an aluminum mold, questioning whether to use an AC electromagnet or two opposing electromagnets.
  • It is noted that aluminum is non-ferrous, implying that eddy current forces may be necessary for the electromagnetic approach, with a reference to their use in recyclable material sorting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express different approaches to the problem, with no consensus on the best method for using sound or electromagnetic forces. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the calculations and configurations needed for the device.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions about sound pressure calculations and the effectiveness of electromagnetic repulsion in the context of non-ferrous materials. The discussion does not resolve the specific mathematical steps or dependencies on definitions related to the proposed methods.

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creating force with sound

Hi, I am currently building a device for the company I work for to open molds that have been plasticized together using sound. The idea is to produce a frequency that will either vibrate the lid open or push it open, but I am stumped on what calculations I need to use. Should I be calculating sound pressure or should I use some other means?

I would greatly appreciate some help!

Thomas
 
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I should add the sound will be directed down a small hole into the hollow product inside the mold and I'm assuming that will create more pressure when the sound travels back to the lid
 
I am trying to figure out how my idea will work for an electromagnetic device that if possible would repel a lid from an aluminium mold that is 6in in diameter and 52in long and 1in thick would I be have to place an AC electromagnet on the opposite end of the lid while running a weaker current to the lid itself or would I need two opposing electromagnets at either end?
 
and the mold is in a cylindrical shape
 
thomas blair said:
I am trying to figure out how my idea will work for an electromagnetic device that if possible would repel a lid from an aluminium mold that is 6in in diameter and 52in long and 1in thick would I be have to place an AC electromagnet on the opposite end of the lid while running a weaker current to the lid itself or would I need two opposing electromagnets at either end?

thomas blair said:
and the mold is in a cylindrical shape

Since aluminum is non-ferrous, you will need to use eddy current forces to do this. They are used in recyclable material sorting, for example. Let us know what you find with those Google search terms... :smile:
 

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