Need help on a nonlinear first order DE question

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Hi Everyone

I tried all ways I can to solve (y^2+x^2+x)y'-y=0, but still cann't find a way to solve it.

Could anybody help on it?

Thank you very much!
 
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Try and get it exact. You can write it as:

(y^2+x^2)dy+xdy-ydx=0

Ok, divide by x^2 to get:

\left(1+\frac{y^2}{x^2}\right)dy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2}=0

bingo-bango right?
 
you wouldn't go one further?
 
Hi !
Another method consists in converting to polar coordinates, which leads to a linear ODE very easy to solve.
The result can be expressed on a parametric form : x=(c-t)/tan(t) , y= c-t
or as x fonction on y :
x = y / tan(c-y)
 
chief10 said:
you wouldn't go one further?

Well, one is a differential of just y and the other is a differential of the quantity y/x. So then if we have:

\left(1+\frac{y^2}{x^2}\right)dy+\frac{xdy-ydx}{x^2}=0

we could re-write that as:

dy=\frac{d(y/x)}{1+\left(\frac{y}{x}\right)^2}

Now, that right side is equivalent to the expression:

\frac{du}{f(u)}

right? So we just integrate it:

\int dy=\int\frac{d(y/x)}{1+\left(\frac{y}{x}\right)^2}

and get:

y=\arctan(y/x)+c
 
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