* Need help with Finding the point of Intersection - Thanks

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Homework Help Overview

The original poster seeks assistance with finding the point of intersection of two linear equations: L: x - y = 4 and M: x + 2y = 7. There is uncertainty about whether to convert the equations into slope-intercept form and how to proceed with solving for the intersection.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of rewriting the equations and explore substitution as a method for finding the intersection. There is confusion regarding the correct manipulation of the equations and the steps to take after rewriting them.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on using substitution. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the steps to take, and while some participants provide corrections, there is no clear consensus on the approach to take next.

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There is a noted struggle with the algebra involved, particularly in substituting and rearranging the equations. The original poster expresses difficulty in understanding the process, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge or confidence in solving similar problems.

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* Need help with "Finding the point of Intersection" - Thanks

Homework Statement



Can someone please explain how I would solve this: As in find the pair of the given lines point of intersection.

L: x - y = 4
M: x + 2y = 7

Now, Do i have to turn these into slope intercept ?

I know L: in slope intercept would be y = -x - 4 correct? or is it y = x + 4
But M I am having trouble with.

Im just having a hard time with this question. Can someone quickly run through the steps to find point of intersection?


Thanks, I really appreciate it!

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No, you don't have to rewrite the equations into slope-intercept form. Finding the point of intersection is the same as finding a value for x and a value of y that satisfies BOTH equations. You already did a similar problem in this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=432810
You solved using substitution in that thread. Do the same here.

BTW, although it's not needed, I see that you rewrote L into slope-intercept form. y = -x - 4 is not correct. Neither is y = x + 4.
 


Thanks,
 


I still can't get this question:

L: x - y = 4
M: x + 2y = 7

it says the ansewr is 5,1 - but ihave no idea how they got that
 


I don't understand why you don't get it. You were able to solve the system using substitution in your previous thread. Like I said, do the same here. Start by solving one of the equations for one of the variables. (I would take the L equation and solve for x.)
 


There must be something I am missing, because I keep getting the wrong answer

L: x - y = 4
M: x + 2y = 7

lets solve L first.

So, L turns into y = x-4 ... correct?

Then do I plut that into

(x - 4) + 2y = 7

Now this is where I get messed up. can u help me out this this next step please?
 


nukeman said:
There must be something I am missing, because I keep getting the wrong answer

L: x - y = 4
M: x + 2y = 7

lets solve L first.

So, L turns into y = x-4 ... correct?
Yes, that is correct.

Then do I plut that into

(x - 4) + 2y = 7

Now this is where I get messed up. can u help me out this this next step please?
You don't replace "x" with that! y= x- 4 so you replace y with x- 4! That leaves an equation that has only x in it. x+ 2y= 7 becomes x+ 2(x- 4)= 7.

Another way to do this would be to subtract the first equation from the second:
(x+ 2y)- (x- y)= 7- 4. The two "x"s cancel leaving an equation for y.
 


so, x+ 2(x- 4)= 7

what do i do with this? I am solving for y correct?

so, do i go,

x + 2x - 8 = 7

can u help me out here? am i correct, what's next step?



HallsofIvy said:
Yes, that is correct.


You don't replace "x" with that! y= x- 4 so you replace y with x- 4! That leaves an equation that has only x in it. x+ 2y= 7 becomes x+ 2(x- 4)= 7.

Another way to do this would be to subtract the first equation from the second:
(x+ 2y)- (x- y)= 7- 4. The two "x"s cancel leaving an equation for y.
 


nukeman said:
so, x+ 2(x- 4)= 7

what do i do with this? I am solving for y correct?

so, do i go,

x + 2x - 8 = 7

can u help me out here? am i correct, what's next step?
Bring all your variables to one side of the equal sign, numbers to the other
 
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nukeman said:
so, x+ 2(x- 4)= 7
what do i do with this? I am solving for y correct?
No, you're solving for x.
 

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