Need Help with First/Second/Third Derivative relation

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The discussion focuses on determining the value of the first derivative, f '(1.2), based on the provided function values and the condition that f ''(x) < 0 for all x in the closed interval. Participants clarify that while f(x) is positive, it does not guarantee a positive first derivative, as a positive function can have a negative slope. The recommended approach is to calculate the slopes of the line segments connecting the given points to establish limiting values for the derivative at x = 1.2.

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  • Understanding of first and second derivatives in calculus
  • Knowledge of slope calculation using rise over run
  • Familiarity with graphing functions and interpreting graphs
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  • Calculate slopes between points to determine f '(1.2) using given values
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  • Study the implications of f ''(x) < 0 on the shape of the function
  • Explore examples of functions with positive values but negative slopes
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Hello all,

Well I am kind of stumped on this question and was hopeing for somr guidance.

X 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4
f(x) 4.18 4.38 4.56 4.73

F is obviously a function and f ''(x)<o for all x in the closed interval. The question asks which of the following has to be for f '(1.2)?

1) f '(1.2)<0 This can't be it because f(x) is positive
2) 0<f '(1.2)<1.6
3) 1.6<f '(1.2) <1.8
4) 1.8< f '(1.2) <2.0
5) f '(1.2)> 2.0 This one is saying that the slope at 1.2 is greater than 2, but i suppose the only way to be certain is to graph the points and find out.As for the rest I'm not entirely sure but hope you guys can assist me ; ;
 
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tangents said:
1) f '(1.2)<0 This can't be it because f(x) is positive

The reason you stated does not guarantee that the first derivative is positive. A positive valued function can have a negative slope and thus a negative first derivative.

5) f '(1.2)> 2.0 This one is saying that the slope at 1.2 is greater than 2, but i suppose the only way to be certain is to graph the points and find out.

You could graph them, or you could use rise over run.

I believe the problem intends for you to calculate the slopes of each of the lne segments connecting the points given in the problem and using those values to determine limiting values for the derivative at the indicated point.
 

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