Negative Length: Implications & Meaning

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The discussion centers on the concept of negative length, questioning its validity since length is inherently a positive magnitude defined by the inner product of vectors. Participants argue that while negative mass is debated, negative length lacks meaning due to its mathematical foundations. The conversation also touches on other concepts like negative temperature, which can exist in specific contexts such as lasers, and notes that negative momentum, being a vector, complicates the notion of negativity. Overall, the consensus is that negative length does not hold significance in physics or mathematics. The implications of negative measurements in various contexts remain a topic of interest but are not universally accepted.
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Does such a concept mean anything? I've heard negative mass discussed but not negative size. What are the implications of negative length?
 
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I don't see how that would work because formally, length is a magnitude and always positive as a result.
 
In general, the length of a vector is defined as <v,v> ^(1/2) (where <> is the inner product), and one of the requirements of the inner product is <v,v> >= 0. Therefore the concept of negative length is meaningless.
 
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I don't see how that would work because formally, length is a magnitude and always positive as a result.

Isn't mass also a magnitude? How are they able to discuss that being negative if so?

What about negative temperature, negative momentum, negative spin? Do those concepts have any value?
 
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I have never heard of negative mass being discussed, but a quick google search yields that there are some who say there are no such thing, and some that say there is (could be). So not sure on that one.

Negative temperature is certainly possible. Lasers are an example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

Momentum is a vector, and 'negative' is not a meaningful concept when talking about vectors.
 
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