Net Acceleration: Is it Ever OK?

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The discussion centers on the validity of calculating net angular acceleration by subtracting angular deceleration from angular acceleration. Participants clarify that net torque should be used, expressed as τnet = Iα, where τ1 and τ2 represent different torques. The relevance of friction is debated, with one participant noting that it affects tension in the string but does not change the fixed angular acceleration of the wheel. The conversation emphasizes the need to understand how to convert linear acceleration from the string into torque acting on the wheel. Overall, the method of calculating net angular acceleration requires careful consideration of torque and friction.
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Homework Statement


Is it ever alright to consider net acceleration as equalling
acceleration forward - acceleration backward

Here's the scenario:
I have a string rotating a wheel at 9.8 m/s^2 ( which I have converted to Angular Acceleration using a = α * r
There will be friction acting (Which I have used to calculate the angular deceleration
(Net Torque = Inertia*Angular Acceleration)


Homework Equations


So net angular acceleration = Angular Acceleration - Angular Deceleration?
Is that a valid method? Or do I have use F = ma somehow...


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hi dan38! :smile:
dan38 said:
So net angular acceleration = Angular Acceleration - Angular Deceleration?
Is that a valid method? Or do I have use F = ma somehow...

you have to use τnet = Iα

you can subtract the torques: τ1 - τ2 = Iα, so α = (τ1 - τ2)/I :wink:
 
hmm but how do I convert the string's movement to a torque acting on the wheel? (Given that I only know it's acceleration)
 
dan38 said:
hmm but how do I convert the string's movement to a torque acting on the wheel? (Given that I only know it's acceleration)

oh, do you mean that the string is attached to something whose acceleration is fixed and known?

but then what is the relevance of the friction? :confused:
 
You're stating that the string is accelerating at 9.8 m / s2, regardless of the friction. In this case the angular acceleration of the wheel is fixed, and all the friction does is increase the tension in the string above that which is required for angular acceleration of the wheel (if there was no friction).
 
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