New study shows recent cooling in opposition to climate model projections

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A recent discussion centers on a study published in the journal Energy & Environment, which claims a statistically significant cooling trend over the past 12 to 13 years, challenging climate model projections. The journal's credibility is contested, with some arguing it is not a peer-reviewed scientific journal but rather a trade publication, while others assert it is legitimate and indexed in various databases. Critics highlight the political affiliations of the study's author, Craig Loehle, with the Heartland Institute, suggesting this influences the study's reliability. The debate underscores a broader contention regarding the validity of climate science and the perceived biases of various research sources. Ultimately, the discussion reflects ongoing tensions between climate skepticism and mainstream scientific consensus.
  • #31
Skyhunter said:
Why bother. I am here to learn, and only have so much time to devote to reading, digesting, and discussing climate change science.

Wait, you don't have time to look at the data, but you have plenty of time to peruse the lists of your "acceptable" sources?

Sorry, don't believe it.
 
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  • #32
At some point in the formation of one's opinions, one must leave some amount of the science to the scientists. Short of going out into the field and taking ice core samples onesself, one must at some point, trust without verifying.
 
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  • #34
WeatherRusty said:
Here is access to the source data...have at it. :smile:

What part of that contradicts the study the opened this thread? How are the discrepancies resolved?
 
  • #35
It is not meant to contradict the study. It is just the data.

You can use the second link to view the trends in the satellite data (Troposphere & Stratosphere) as determined by NOAA and the NCDC.

The OP study, if I read it correctly, attempts to overlay and correlate the satellite data with some not as of yet determined causal agent producing a suspected 50-70 year oscillation, and then project all that into the future to predict future cooling.

This is then, I suppose, expected to negate the effects of radiative forcing of the climate system, which is the backbone of AGW providing the scientific basis for anticipated warming of the oceanic/atmospheric system.
 
  • #36
As some users have correctly stated, the journal is not considered a reputable source.
 

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